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Would This Dress Be Considered Lolita? 
29th-Apr-2014 09:29 pm
Before I had discovered the lolita community, I bought this dress on eBay. When I was looking through pictures of lolita and stuff, I thought that it looked really similar. Maybe it would be a JSK or something like that. So would it be? And would I need a to wear a blouse under it? Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sweet-lolita-Ball-Gown-Saloon-girl-white-Lace-cosplay-knee-length-blue-dress-/160664360455?pt=US_CSA_WC_Dresses&hash=item2568579607
Comments 
30th-Apr-2014 03:25 am (UTC)
I think it's a lolita dress. Just the unicolor classic type :) I actually love it.
30th-Apr-2014 04:25 am (UTC)
I don't mean to sound like a killjoy, but while that dress is obviously inspired by lolita it looks .. cheap and nasty.

In the first picture the bodice looks shiny like costume satin, though going by the description it's made out of cotton.

Though since you asked and you have obviously already bought it, I will share some advice:
With a bit of modification it could be okay - if I were you I would remove that lace along the top of the bodice - it's too wide. If you look at the photo of the back of the dress you can see the lace which would run under your arm and along your back just.. flopping out. It wouldn't look very flattering and wouldn't be particularly comfortable under your arm.

The satin ribbons on the straps don't do the dress any favours - I would at the very least make them smaller/shorter but would prefer to remove them entirely.

Again with the underarm area, it looks like it comes up quite high under the arm. If you're handy at all with a sewing machine, you should take that in a bit but remember that you will also have to go along the back of the dress and do the same there otherwise that hem will look misshapen. This also means you would need to lengthen the straps but you could use some of the fabric you remove to do that so it matches a bit better.

Ideally, you should wear a blouse beneath a jumperskirt. Some would say it isn't a necessity in the middle of summer if it gets hot where you live and I used to be of the same mindset but I now realise how much a nice blouse helps pull together an outfit even if you're going to be wearing an outer layer such as a cardigan or bolero.

As a beginner, I'd suggest sticking to white and blue for the colour scheme: White blouse, white socks and blue shoes, making it a more old school looking co-ord though when you're more comfortable and experienced in putting co-ords together, you could even try out a pink blouse and tights or something to be a bit more adventurous but I'd stick to the plain basics to get started.
30th-Apr-2014 09:31 am (UTC)
Adding to this, I don't think the lace around the hem looks very good.. it looks kind of plastic-y to me?
30th-Apr-2014 04:28 am (UTC)
I would say yes, like the previous commenter said, it is a cute unicolor pastel classic type dress. I would probably say yes to a blouse, but on a hot summer day, wear a bolero over it :)
30th-Apr-2014 09:09 am (UTC)
Unfortunately a lot of ebay lolita dresses don't look like the picture when you actually get them. I suggest you ask again for help once you actually have it in your hands (or if you actually have it now, post some photos). You can see on the watermark on the ebay photos that these pictures are stolen from another clothing maker, Momo's Handicrafts. They are also not recommended as a good source for authentic lolita items, so the fact that this reseller is stealing their pictures doesn't lead me to believe that the item you bought is good quality.
30th-Apr-2014 07:09 pm (UTC)
From what I've read here on EGL, Personalization Product is run by the former designer for Momo's Handicrafts/ Momo's Fairytale Shop, so the watermarks on the pictures are all hers and surprisingly legit. The shop has been around since 2009, but the results are mixed. Fair to bad lace is common, and the torsos tend to run long. Fabric quality varies, and having seen some of their products myself IRL, I'm not sure I'd really recommend this shop to anyone. :/
3rd-Jun-2014 11:09 pm (UTC)
If this is run by momo's I suggest not buying from this shop again (to original op) because when I first ventured to buy my first lolita dress (about 6 years ago) I bought a "custom made" dress from momo's eBay shop. When I received the dress I was ultimately disappointed. Though I had never held a "real" lolita dress I knew that the frabic was not supposed to feel like my bed sheets. The dress was heavy and actually sounded "swishy" when I wore it. I never wore it in public.
30th-Apr-2014 10:20 am (UTC)
Like thedirtydead, I can tell it is an obviously Lolita piece, and yes, it's a JSK, however it looks really poorly made.

The fabric looks either shiny or really thin. The lace looks cheap and it's thrown all over the place. The construction will probably be meh, from what I see on the picture that shows the junction of the bodice and the skirt.

You would need to wear a blouse under or a bolero over it. But for your outfit to be truly Lolita, you will also need a petticoat, as none comes with your dress.

Like go_slow_ly, I think we will be able to help more once we see the dress. Wait for it to arrive and take pictures before you come back at us!
30th-Apr-2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
Well, it is lolita, and it is a JSK, but it doesn't look very nice and it's very overpriced for what it is. The design is fine, but the materials look costume-y. The fabric looks thin and cheap and the lace along the bottom looks stiff and cheap. It might just be a bad picture, seeing as a lot of Bodyline dresses look awful in the stock photos and good in real life, but the opposite is most frequently true. You'll just have to see when it arrives.
30th-Apr-2014 11:00 pm (UTC)
You've already gotten a lot of good feedback on this dress. I just wanted to point out for the future, when you're asking yourself this question, I think this is quite useful: http://lolita-handbook.livejournal.com/1696.html#cutid3
30th-Apr-2014 11:24 pm (UTC)
Thanks everyone for replying! I actually have the dress and I think it's of decent quality. Here are some pics of me in it. They were taken a few days ago and I can't find the dress at this moment and I apologize for the slight overexposure of the pictures. Also, I am extraordinarily short so the dress extends well past knee length. Does anyone have any advice on this? Also, I don't have a petticoat yet and I was wondering whether to get a bell-shaped one or an a-line one. Thanks!

http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/MithrilWP/library/Dress%20Pics
1st-May-2014 03:05 am (UTC)
Oh, that doesn't look too bad at all. I don't think it looks too long, and it'll be shorter once you have a nice fluffy petticoat under it. And it would be bell-shaped. :)
1st-May-2014 04:34 am (UTC)
Thank you!
1st-May-2014 09:31 am (UTC)


If you want is as a sun-dress... maybe you can wear it at home, and that is it. But that is not lolita. I recommend you to look at galleries, photos of Lolita style (Gothic & Lolita Bible, this is a magazine you can look for the scans in Google), so you can get the idea of what is the style that Lolita has.

Lolita is hard to achieve, and small details can make you look frumpy. I recommend you to read the comments above, even if they seem hurtful, they are being honest.
Basics: blouse, non-plastic-lace, petticoat.
1st-May-2014 02:54 pm (UTC)
I missed this when I commented below. I would really get rid of the eyelet lace on top or at least get it to stay down, because it looks really awkward. The length is fine, but it really doesn't look like it could reasonably accommodate a petticoat. It might just be the picture, but if this is true, there's really no way to make it Lolita.
1st-May-2014 10:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. And the dress is pretty fabricy so it could fit a petticoat. What did you mean by getting rid of the eyelet lace on top?
2nd-May-2014 07:53 pm (UTC)
The eyelet lace that goes straight up out of the very top in the stock picture, and sticks out almost at a right angle in your personal pictures.
1st-May-2014 02:51 pm (UTC)
Momo's has been jumping from one shop name to another to another to avoid bad feedback. They've been known to send out horrible products, at least one including hot glued on lace for example. The dress in the picture looks Lolita if a little low quality, maybe an okay beginners dress (except the bodice looks really unflattering) but I'd be concerned about whether what you received was even as good quality as what's in the picture.
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