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29th-Jan-2014 02:42 am
I was browsing F+F's website earlier and noticed some new stuff. They've really been getting into the painting dress trend lately. Then suddenly my eyes were assaulted by something... something. INTENSE.


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It looks like someone put a Divide filter on a painting of Venice. In fact I'm pretty sure that's just what happened. Aside from being the most difficult to coordinate dress ever, it actually reminded me of something from Bodyline: (image clickable)

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This dress from BL is actually one of the items I like very much from BL- I am a Venice-fanatic, and I like pink in combination with sax. So seeing it in violet x green was... a shock xD I know this isn't the first time multiple brands have used the same fabric.


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Classical Puppets and Bodyline

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Victorian Maiden and Bodyline
and many more, I'm  sure.

What do you all feel about brands that share fabric? This does not apply to replicas, of course- but of commercially available fabric only. As a newbie I'm leaning toward more solids and 'basic' pieces right now, more for maximizing wearability than standout pieces in themselves. But I'm interested in how others view 'non-custom' prints!




Comments 
28th-Jan-2014 06:46 pm (UTC)
That first dress from F+F. It's been on there for at least a few months. I know this because I fell in love with it when I saw it. I need it in my life. Some day...
28th-Jan-2014 07:25 pm (UTC)
I haven't been keeping an eye on F+F so I missed it entirely. But they're on sale now, yes? You could get it... but that dress might be difficult to coord! o:
28th-Jan-2014 07:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah. But it looks pretty good with the browns they have the model in.
28th-Jan-2014 08:51 pm (UTC)
It irritates me because I really love the Bodyline Choco Berry print, and White Moon made a far superior JSK with the same fabric, but I've never seen it in the sales or anything. XD But no, I like it cause it gives you more options style wise. I've always kind of secretly hated that Rose Bouquet OP, but the Classical Puppets JSK is actually really pretty. O: I don't think there's really anything wrong with it since it's not a custom fabric, as long as they change the design.

Edited at 2014-01-28 08:56 pm (UTC)
28th-Jan-2014 10:39 pm (UTC)
I like the rose bouquet fabric and bought two of the skirts off bodyline to remake. The Classical Puppets is a better design, but it wasn't out then. That OP is pretty bad, I hate the neckline of it. It looks like it should have a collar but no, Mr Yan wants to see your decolletage!
29th-Jan-2014 04:41 am (UTC)
If you don't mind my asking, how do you remake Bodyline stuff? Did you add ruffles and the like? I would like to see it o: I find Bodyline mods fascinating- I've seen some luxe pieces made from BL items, like this.

About Rose Bouquet- I actually like the collar *shot* but I really, really dislike the sleeves- overall it has that 'maid dress' look, and I blame the sleeves for that. >w> would have worked fine as a JSK worn with a ruffly collared blouse of some kind...
29th-Jan-2014 05:05 am (UTC)
Interestingly enough, I'm in love with the Rose Bouquet fabric, but none of the cuts from both Bodyline and Classical Puppets! Lol... I'm thinking of buying the Bodyline OP and making it into a JSK, and changing the skirt part to look like the Classical Puppets version... that's if I want to go through all the trouble. XP Maybe if the fabric itself was available somewhere, that would be even better, I'd buy it instantly.

As far as the F+F dress, I think someone somewhere called it a "mold dress." Haha...
29th-Jan-2014 05:40 pm (UTC)
That might have been me... unless someone else thought the same thing (quite possible! XD)
30th-Jan-2014 03:35 am (UTC)
It doesn't look like Venice in that colorway, that's certain... :p
31st-Jan-2014 01:34 am (UTC)
Haha... I may not have said it myself, but I was sure thinking it as well! :D
30th-Jan-2014 03:35 am (UTC)
Mold is apt. If I wasn't familiar with that print to begin with, I wouldn't have recognized the print as Venice xD I am curious as to where people get their fabric. Most of the reviews I've seen are about Spoonflower.
31st-Jan-2014 01:45 am (UTC)
Haha, yeah, I agree, that colorway doesn't evoke or look like Venice at all (and I've been there too! Its so gorgeous, I want to go back again sometime).

As far as Spoonflower, I'm very disappointed to hear their black colors don't come out too well. Considering the majority of any prints I'd design would be based on black, it's quite disheartening... I just might have to learn embroidery and create "prints" that way...
29th-Jan-2014 11:10 pm (UTC)
When I get it done I'll post it :)

I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to do it right now. At the moment I'm deeply conflicted about the waistband. I can't decide whether to make a regular shirred waist skirt out of the skirt pieces and make a separate corset out of the high waist parts or try and keep it as a high waist skirt. I think it might be easier and more versatile the other way. I've also got some brand mods I'm working on.

Re that dress: I like puffy sleeves but not with that neckline. Puffy sleeves can go princess or maid. I dislike anything in my clothes that is even a little maid-like, and I can totally see what you mean.
30th-Jan-2014 04:22 am (UTC)
Looking forward to the finished result! :]
29th-Jan-2014 04:35 am (UTC)
I've never seen the White Moon chocoberry o: but that is a pretty print.

About Rose Bouquet- I sort of like it and dislike it at the same time(?) it's a nice print but something about the sleeves really irks me, it reminds me of maid cosplay for some reason. If it were a JSK like CP's, it'd be better... >w>
28th-Jan-2014 10:37 pm (UTC)
Brands sharing the same fabric always amuse me. During the summer of 2012 BTSSB and AP both had dresses out using the same fabric (AP Country of Flowers, BTSSB Loretta Rose) and it was really hilarious because if you lived in SF you could see the dresses at each store.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y4uYOnh793g/T-Ti8ZpRMMI/AAAAAAAACIM/YnOKInWco2w/s1600/06.22.12.BABY%282%29.JPG (Loretta Rose)
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/flower-country-princess-op

Then there's the Cameo Rose fabric. AP used it, Bodyline used it and one other brand used it, maybe Meta? I don't remember. It gets mistaken for an IW Trump Rose replica which is annoying because Trump Rose is a similar but proprietary (brand name and all) print on corduroy, but there's not any trumps in the Cameo Rose fabric. I would love to get my hands on a bunch more of that fabric in blue, I adore it.

Mostly when I see brands using the same fabric I think "wow, I wish I knew where they were getting that" because if I like it, it's so much easier to make things from scratch than alter them.
29th-Jan-2014 05:02 am (UTC)
Woah. I imagine that caused a fuss xD but it seems like AP dresses have a more bell-shaped skirt than BTSSB- or is that just because of the petti they use?

Huh, so that's what that print was. I saw the Cameo Rose print on Bodyline first, only in skirt form (I don't know if they ever did dresses) and I thought that the print was nice but the frill at the bottom looked stiff. They do ~kind of~ look alike from a distance- unless someone's examining your dress up close to look for trumps in the print. xD You're right, the blue is adorable. Kind of has a rococo feeling to it imo.

By the way, in google Cameo Rose I discovered your old thread on this topic. Oops :p But it is 2014, so I hope this doesn't count as a 'dead horse' kind of topic.

29th-Jan-2014 07:30 pm (UTC)
It's actually quite funny. I was really fond of Bodylines Cameo Rose print when I git into Lolita about a year ago, but they only had red left, even though I loved the pink version. Someone wrote it was actually a knock-off of an AP print, so I kept an eye out for their pieces. Now, last summer I obtained the pink skirt, bu it was indeed a piece of Metamorphose! (It's oldschoold, like 2007ish, can't even find an entry on hellolace or lolibrary except for an OP version which was on mbok sometime ago). At this very moment I have a bookmark for a bag with this print in pink, but this time it's from Innocent World with their name integrated in the print! It's really a funny print...
29th-Jan-2014 11:06 pm (UTC)
I'd like to see a pic of that bookmark to verify that it's the same print (sans the name) rather than the trump rose print that always gets confused with it -- if it is, I'd like to know! :)
30th-Jan-2014 06:18 am (UTC)
That's my bookmark: http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r110009413
But when I looked at it it really seemed to be IW's Trump Rose print. :) I already thought they would have an own name, since it can't be the same fabric due to their name in it. But when I saw the little white dots in the pink stripes it was settled for me xD Anyway, they look very very similar.
30th-Jan-2014 10:41 pm (UTC)
It is similar. I can totally understand how people think that, but the Trump Rose fabric is actually a fine wale corduroy. The Cameo Rose fabric is cotton broadcloth. Also, the AP/BL/Meta fabric doesn't have the card suit symbols on the white stripes.

Bodyline has done replicas of IW before so I wouldn't put it past them, but I don't think AP and Meta would... ;)
29th-Jan-2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
Well, I clearly forgot about it, or I'd have linked to that ^_~
29th-Jan-2014 12:37 am (UTC)
I think the jsk is pretty but it is pretty far beyond my coordinating skills. As for sharing prints I personally love it! While one might fail at making it appeal to me (Bodyline) others might do really well (Classical Puppets)! I believe everything deserves second chances! Even prints.
29th-Jan-2014 05:04 am (UTC)
Regarding F+F- it is beyond my coordinating skills as well. And I was never a fan of that shade of green... but it seems relatively well liked. Different people, different tastes xD
29th-Jan-2014 02:39 pm (UTC)
Baby vs Moitié. I'll just leave that here.



Edited at 2014-01-29 02:40 pm (UTC)
30th-Jan-2014 03:31 am (UTC)
The Baby one has the usual feel to it, but... omg the MMM version is gorgeous. *_* I assume these came out at the same time?
30th-Jan-2014 10:43 pm (UTC)
Wow, I usually don't like MMM that much because:

1) I don't like crosses, I'm Jewish :p
2) I'm about as gothic as a strawberry crepe

but in this case, MMM blew it out of the water!
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