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Bodyline discussion 
18th-Dec-2013 05:58 pm
Hi everyone.
I figured out someone should post Venus Angelic's review of her work with Bodyline here. I don't hate Bodyline, in facts it's a pretty useful shop, but after that I might just stop buying from them.
We all now that Bodyline's model contest is a little bit shady, and we had quite a few strikes when Yoshiko (former model) had to report Bodyline for not sending her things back when she had to stop working because of health problem. But apparently they are worse than we tought.


So discussion about Bodyline.

Should we warn beginners against them ? Should we boycott ? Should we just don't react ?

In my opinion, Venus reacted in a clever way, but if it were something youger/not used to this kind of attention, it could have been way worse.
This story has put me off, it's really don't make me want to buy from them anymore, I would not like to support such a business. What about you ?

Edit : (please understand that this is my very own opinion, based on my experience, and that as english is not my first language some things may be not that clear).
My own opinion is that yes, Venus shouldn't have gone to Japan, but she gains her life being e-famous and she needed publicity. It's a job like another, even tought it's more prone to throw you in bad situation. BUT we need to thing again about Venus, as wise as she seems is 16. Her mother shouldn't have let her go to Japan, but Bodyline should have organize something better. She was incomfortable, harrassed (yes because openly asking repetetivly to a young girl about marriage and her type of men even tought you are here to work is harrassment), plus she had some really bad work conditions (12h a day with an 30min lunch breack ?), especially for someone this young. Seing that Bodyline didn't pay her (it must have been in her contract and I'm ok with it because they apparently paied for everything she needed there + plane ticket) made me think it's because of visa problems. Foreigner aren't allowed to work more than 8 hours a day if I rememeber well, so was she in a way illegal ? She could have really been endangered if she wasn't clever enought to react (didn't Yoshiko apparently had her passeport taken by Bodyline ?). Mr Yan is chinese, the woman who work for him also for sure, and I don't know about the fisher. So are they all illegal (in the way they work) ? Why can't she name them by their real name, because it's obviously some fake ones !

I know that in fashion industry, bad photo, lot of work, creepy places and people happens, but that's not the point. The point is : do we agree with that ? Is that okay Bodyline still harass and disrepect their own employes ? Because we can't do anything about bigger compagnies, but Bodyline is mostly targeted on lolita for the international market (and cosplay in Japan), we are the customer and we have the right to know how Bodyline works. I will not try and discourage people to buy from them, because it's a pretty good shop and it's really useful/cheap, but people must be aware that cheap often equal bad work conditions. I personnally try to not support that kind of businness, in and out of lolita, so I will in the future be even more wary about buying from them for my own clothes.



The video got deleted by Mr Yan, someone linked me a copy : http://vimeo.com/82477325

Comments 
18th-Dec-2013 05:40 pm (UTC)
his actions are creepy but did he do anything worse than asking her creepy questions?
18th-Dec-2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
I think that as Venus is a minor it fall under sexual harassment in a work place tought.
18th-Dec-2013 05:47 pm (UTC)
My personal experience with the convention industry has taught me that there are a TON of Mr. Yans in powerful places. When I was younger I use to get very strange offerings and I wisely deflected / ignored them. If we boycotted every single company that had a Mr. Yan then we would lose at least one major anime dubbing company, several cosplay shops and many many other businesses faintly connected to the over all "interest in Japanese stuff" genre. To pick out -just- Mr. Yan would be strange... To me I feel like the best way to combat this is to publicly post videos and experiences like Venus did in order to shame this behavior. It's happening because we're not calling him on it; we can shame him into not harassing his models with enough bad press.
I feel like if we boycotted the company it could eventually shut down but that would not bring the focus to his behavior. We need to send a message that this behavior is not okay and I think the best way to do that is to Talk about it Very Loudly, prominently and publicly.
I have known of so many small business shut down and when asked why people would shrug and guess it just lost popularity. It would only be one person, out of dozens, who when asked would emit the boss was a total creep and got wrapped up in a scandal... Yet most people would not remember that as the reason as time went on. I would not want that to happen with Bodyline because it would just yet other Mr. Yans continue with this type of behavior.
18th-Dec-2013 06:34 pm (UTC)
100% agreed
Boycotting at best will shut down BL (I say at best because the last attempt this community had at a BL boycott was a joke and the Lolita community has fragmented since then) which does nothing to address his behavior.
18th-Dec-2013 05:47 pm (UTC)
it was very inappropriate for the staff to keep pressing her about marriage! it must have been nerve-racking for her, being so young. she handled it so well, though. i would've felt trapped and afraid - it would've made me want to go home that instant.

also the fact that none of the models receive any sort of compensation(!).

Edited at 2013-12-18 05:49 pm (UTC)
18th-Dec-2013 06:04 pm (UTC)
I absolutely do not support how Venus was treated and I completely agree that she did an excellent job at keeping her composure and staying safe.
Although, I would like to point out that as far as we know third hand; zero compensation is part of the contract. When you are presented a contract you can confirm and sign it or disagree and refuse to sign. If a contract clearly states "you will do this, we will do that and you get no money" and you agree to sign then you cannot complain about anything (*anything to do with being paid) because you agreed to the terms and had the choice to not agree to anything if you did not like what the piece of paper said.


Edited at 2013-12-18 06:05 pm (UTC)
18th-Dec-2013 05:53 pm (UTC)
I have not bought anything from Bodyline since the incident with Yoshiko, and I will continue to not buy from them.
22nd-Dec-2013 10:37 pm (UTC)
This. Glad I'm not the only one.
18th-Dec-2013 06:06 pm (UTC)
Her speaking about it so openly and honestly instead of covering up the creepy things actually surprised me. I have a little more respect for her now. I think she was really brave to do this, and I hope Mr. Yan doesn't harass her about it.

As far as boycotting Bodyline goes, you can if you want to. I've been thinking about boycotting them for a few months now, and I think after this, I will. You can tell new girls who are considering buying from them about this if you want to. I don't think that we should expect everyone to boycott Bodyline over it, however, because if we boycotted every store that did shady things, we wouldn't have many places to shop! Bodyline is one of the cheapest and easiest to order from websites to get good Lolita clothing, so if we didn't have them, many Lolita on a budget would have a much harder time. I think if you want to boycott Bodyline, you should encourage new girls to buy from other stores by showing them how many options are available to them, and if there are new girls in your local community, let them in on a group order from Taobao.
18th-Dec-2013 06:41 pm (UTC)
Just curious, is it possible to report Mr. Yan's behaviour to Japanese authority? Because I felt like it's a kind of scam claiming that you are offering competition but in actuality he is asking for sexual favors or marriage in return for winning the competition? Furthermore, marrying at such a young age as 16 do you need parental consent in Japan? Then again, creepy behaviour =/= criminal. I wish the contestants good luck, but don't be afraid to alert the authority about if something feels off.

Edited at 2013-12-18 06:46 pm (UTC)
18th-Dec-2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
If he didn't actually ask her to marry him, he may not have done anything wrong. All I got from the video is that the staff asked her about her opinions on marriage. That's not illegal.
18th-Dec-2013 07:04 pm (UTC)
I think Venus has approached this in a very clever and mature manner. It's nice for once to see a discussion of BL competitions/activity conducted in a clear manner that simply presents the facts. Usually when this sort of thing comes up the entire discussion is a bit drama laden, like when we had a friend of a friend (or something like that) speaking on behalf of the first winner or the Yoshiko incident.

Will I still buy from them? Maybe.
I rarely buy from them now so me boycotting them wouldn't exactly have much of an impact (I've ordered from them twice in 5 years) and BL rarely release anything I like enough to want to buy. If they did, I might buy it, I might not.
18th-Dec-2013 07:40 pm (UTC)
I have a lot of respect for Venus after this review. It's awesome that she's calling the staff out on the creepy questions they asked her, like that. It doesn't even sound like Mr. Yan was really the worst of them...
Well, I don't think we should boycot Bodyline or discourage new members of the subculture from buying from them. What we should discourage people from, though, is modelling for Mr. Yan. The working conditions sound a tad poor and unprofessional, but the inappropriate behaviour of the staff is the worst.
18th-Dec-2013 07:59 pm (UTC)
I agree with everything you said. There are a million businesses that have bosses who behave inappropriately. That's absolutely not okay, but boycotting won't really make him act better. Probably pointing out how they act is a better way. Even if people outside Japan boycott, a lot of people inside Japan will still buy their costumes because it's also a cheap costume store along with selling lolita stuff.
Definitely people shouldn't enter the contests, though. It doesn't sound like a good deal at all, even without the weird questioning. Working 12-hour days just to get bad pictures of yourself on a website doesn't seem worth it. Even though you get a trip to Japan, you don't get much free time. In Japan, you have to have a work visa to get paid, if you're not a citizen. I think that's why the contest winners don't get paid.
18th-Dec-2013 08:19 pm (UTC)
I actually respect Venus after this. She seemed to have tolerated things well despite the ickiness of it all.

I never bought anything from body line, don't ever intend to either.
Don't like the person behind the company nor their products.
19th-Dec-2013 12:03 am (UTC)
I think Venus' video getting spread around will have some effect on boycotts, and definitely limit interested future models to young ladies who, like her, are socially savvy and strong enough to fend off the creepy and harassing parts, because they want the trip to Japan and modeling experience (for no pay, just apparently free flight, hotel and food) badly enough. And the "contest" will fade if that happens a couple more years in succession and the conspirators can't lure in any innocent "fish."

19th-Dec-2013 12:04 am (UTC)
Idk, the shop and how weird yan is are two separate things.
19th-Dec-2013 12:23 am (UTC)
Wow, I wasn't expecting such an honest video! That poor girl. I know I wouldn't have been able to cope well with those uncomfortable situations at age 16.

Maybe this will make others think twice about entering their modeling contest. Rather than the entire shop, since BL does produce some really great items, I'd really like to see the modeling contest boycotted.
19th-Dec-2013 01:36 am (UTC)
Well that looked like a nightmare. But I'm glad someone finally got the whole "dream world" experience on footage. Seriously considering avoiding them now.
19th-Dec-2013 02:49 am (UTC)
That was an interesting video, and it made me uncomfortable to learn of some of the situations that she has been though. I haven't bought from Bodyline in such a long time partly because of the shady behavior.
19th-Dec-2013 03:38 am (UTC)
I have no love for the Venus girl or her puppetmaster Margaret, and I find the content of the video extremely hypocritical. I believe it was only a year ago when Venus and Margaret made a huge fuss about how Bodyline rejected her because of her weight, then a few months ago Venus and Margaret made a huge bang-up story about the whole Tokyo Disneyland trip and how Mr Yan was nothing but courteous to both Venus and Margaret (who apparently was in attendance!!), they were friends since forever and Yoshiko is a gold-digger intent on ruining Mr Yan's good name.

Crying wolf now about how Venus was allegedly forced to go to Japan alone and be subject to intrusive questions smacks of a piss-poor attempt at deflecting criticism. Also, age of sexual consent is 16 in the UK, she's not a minor.
19th-Dec-2013 04:27 am (UTC)
I kind of feel like this. Not to say Mr. Yan is not a creeper because clearly he is but not too long ago when people were warning Venus of these things it was a big show of how he was nothing but polite and a gentleman. Now that the modeling has been done it's okay to say what a creep he is again. Just seems......well not very on the up and up by anyone involved.

If I were to boycott Bodyline it wouldn't budge their bottom line even a bit. I've bought maybe twice from them in almost four years. It's always been shoes too so it's unlikely I will be doing it again.

I don't feel like warning new girls of the company will do much. Bodyline offers a cheap alternative to brand and that's a big lure to new folks. We should put the word out there that it's run by a totally sleeze and let them make up their minds from there.
19th-Dec-2013 05:51 am (UTC)
Disclaimer: I personally do not shop at Bodyline. I have 1 wig from them and I think its quality is crap. I don't care if Bodyline closes up shop today. Also, this is super long but I commented as I watchted the video because it was so irritating to see all the fallacies that I had to pick them apart one by one. I'm not posting this so anyone here can agree with me since I'm so loved, I'm posting this in case Venus or her mom read it, because they really should.

First of all I think it's kind of funny that she says that you can only talk to Mr. Yan if you speak Chinese or Japanese, but then all of the messages from Mr. Yan as well as the interview at Starbucks are in English. Second of all, unless she got written permission to post Mr. Yan's face, voice, and the contents of what he said in his interview, it's illegal and VERY rude. The person who uploaded the video should be sued for invasion of privacy. You don't post videos or pictures of people without their express consent and there's no way in hell Venus got it from Mr. Yan. She also shouldn't post where their warehouse is. That's another breach of privacy. Honestly the longer I watch this video, the more I see that both mother and daughter are totally classless. She went so far as having a concealed phone camera at Maid in Dreaming (I've worked as a maid in Akihabara for a year and you CANNOT take any video or photos of anything other than your food). This girl is disgusting, she didn't even cover the face of the Maid who was visible even though some maids choose to work as maids INCOGNITO with no photo on the website and a fake name so coworkers at their real job or at school don't find out. Also why post details about why Mr. Yan can't drive? Is it anyone's business if he got into an accident? Her dream is to live in Japan? Well perhaps she should learn some basic manners first because everybody here would shun her ass. No interest in men at 16? Lol. What's awkward about an older "mentor" type woman asking some young girl what kind of guy she likes? She's deluded if she thought the woman was trying to set her up with her husband. For someone who's "dream" it is to live in Japan she should get to know how Japanese people communicate because it's a VERY common, innocent conversation they had. As for being naked? They're two FEMALES, first of all. Children bathe naked with their fathers in the bathtub here, and when they get older, in the same bathwater. What's wrong about having a relaxing conversation at an onsen? So what if it's naked? For someone who wants to live in Japan she sure seems to hate the culture a lot. What does she like? Kawaii stuff? Cause she can get that imported. If Mr. Murakami was trying to pressure that girl into anything (and not just having a simple conversation..) then he wouldn't have stopped talking about it when she mentioned she wanted to get married at 25. That's not how predators work. Japanese people are very direct and not at all PC. She's so into herself she's reading into everything (even women) are saying to her. Gross. Also, I know she's attention-starved but not being allowed to take pictures with your "fans" is not uncommon for a modeling contract. Your pictures are what gives a company $$. If you give them for free then they are worth less. Think a little. Saying that the person you were with smelled bad is really tacky. At least this chick will never do business in Japan again so thank God for that. Poor guy did nothing to her. (cont.)
19th-Dec-2013 05:51 am (UTC)
Meanwhile I have no idea what Mr. Yan or Mr. Murakami did wrong. Chinese people and Japanese people are usually pretty direct. The lack of grasp of English also plays a role in the words chosen. Venus keeps saying she can speak Japanese but at the beginning of the video her Japanese is very basic and downright rude (you don't say "yokatta!" with nothing more to your superiors) and if she really could speak it then she would have spoken it with Mr. Yan. In fact during the Bloopers section she gets taught how to say a very very basic phrase (translates to "What is Bodyline" doesn't get any more basic..) and she keeps getting it wrong. Embarassing.

Also, I do not care if she felt taken advantage of in any way, first of all there were two years of weird messages and contracts before she accepted to go. I'm sorry but any mother who allows her 15 year old to go work for a guy who initially asked for her to come ALONE is literally asking that man to do bad things to her child. If it were my mom who got such a request, even if the man had changed his request later, it would have been a 10000000% NO WAY IN HELL. It's not like Mr. Yan kidnaps little girls from shopping malls, here are these mothers who willingly ship off their daughters to a man who a) has a bad reputation and b) asks underaged girls to come by themselves to a foreign country. Parents need to take some responsibility for their actions, here. If anything had happened to that girl it would have been her mother's fault first and foremost. I don't want to make assumptions as I do not know this family, but since Venus mentions at the beginning of the video that her mother is a single mom without so much as 10,000 dollars in savings, it makes me think that her mom was just fine shipping her off to some weird foreign guy in some foreign country if she thought it would make her some $$. I know she mentions Bodyline models don't get paid but perhaps she thought it would open doors for her daughter in the modeling world for future cash flow. Even if that isn't the motivation behind it, it's the mother who was 100% wrong and I personally am disgusted that anyone would be so careless with their daughter. Venus says "some of the clothes I was put in were short and embarassing". Um, you could see exactly the kinds of clothing available from Bodyline before you agreed to the contract, so you knew what kind of stuff you'd be wearing. Lolita is a very small part of what Bodyline carries. It's widely known Bodyline started its company as erotic costumes and one would research that before accepting to go alone shoot pictures for them.

So to wrap this up: they flew this ingrate to Tokyo free of charge, let her play around with a bunch of cute dresses, put her on their site to give her the 5 minutes of fame she apparently craved, paid for her food, paid for her hotel, paid for her to go to Disneyland and an Onsen, gave her THREE days of rest for only 6 days of work, and all this chick can do is whine about the fact that you go into Onsens naked, invent some sordid motivation behind a perhaps inappropriate but most likely innocent conversation, write extremely rude insults about the people who took care of her and took her places, whine about everything and then post video of a man who most likely didn't give permission and a few maids who DEFINITELY didn't give permission? I'm sorry, the girl is a mannerless crass number, and the mother is totally out of her mind for sending her in the first place. Venus is SUPER cute, I'd love to have been born with a face like hers, but despite this her video made her look disgusting.

I have NO idea why anyone would want to stop shopping at Bodyline after watching this video. The only two things wrong with Bodyline is that wearing their stuff is basically reputation suicide and that they chose this ingrate as a model. None of the staff in that video did ANYTHING wrong. I really do hope they sue.
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19th-Dec-2013 06:23 am (UTC)
Wait wait wait. So she's saying Mr. Yan is creepy? Well I never.
Lots of modeling companies do sketchy shit. I'm not saying it's OK but I just don't find this particularly appalling. The other stories about Mr. Yan are way weirder. Almost any other horror story I've heard about modeling is weirder
19th-Dec-2013 07:08 am (UTC)
It's not that this is the most unfortunate thing to ever happen to a model, or even particularly out of the ordinary in some cases, I just think that the Bodyline contests are very well known within the Lolita fashion and a lot of newbies sort of see them as a ticket to their dreams. It's really just further confirmation of things we all know and hopefully a really plain and simple way to show those girls what's really in store for them if they think they're going to be the next Bodyline Idol Chan :P

After all, we all know that if you buy from a Lolita dress with a stolen stock photo from a discount sweatshop that you're going to get a pile of unwearable crap, but that doesn't mean it's not unfortunate every time that Milanoo sends someone a pink garbage bag with raschel lace hot glued to it.
19th-Dec-2013 07:13 am (UTC)
I don't get how would a mother be so selfish and greedy to basically sell out her own child
19th-Dec-2013 07:22 am (UTC)
You clearly don't know Margaret. She's absolutely insane. Pageant moms have nothing on her.
19th-Dec-2013 07:51 am (UTC)
I'm not that surprised to see all the creepy things around that "compagny". Considering that they were known for their erotic costumes (That seems to still be available in love hotels and shady stores; just take a look at the "Love Dream costume" packages left on their website, it tells everything @w@') it doesn't surprise me that much. But still, it pretty scares me to think that Venus's mother let her go to Japan in such an unstable and dangerous situation. That's completly irresponsible. @w@'
19th-Dec-2013 11:35 am (UTC)
Wtf! I am shocked at how some people are reacting to this. This is a 16year old child for Gods sake! How can you say such mean things about her personality when it is probably not even fully developed. Everyone makes mistakes at 14/15 and just because you have a YouTube channel doesn't make them any more permanent or indicative of how you will be as an adult!
I'm also shocked at what people are saying about her and her mother "oh she changed her tune"...Does contacting a girl and her mother over two years, taking them out to dinner and meeting up whenever he was in Britain not smack of grooming to you? That's how child abuse works (which I'm not saying this was, but it comes over creepily along the same lines) you gain the trust of the child and their family before you try anything.
As far as letting a 16 year old go modeling in Tokyo unaccompanied, I'm not sure I would let my kid do that, but 15 years ago, when I was her age, it would have been totally normal for a girl to travel down to London or to a festival by herself, and when I was 19 and lived and worked in London I had 16 year old friends living away from home working. It is shocking now, but at the time we were all largely all right, mainly because there was a well developed tip off network for creeps like Mr Yan. It may well be her mother just doesn't get how times have changed.
As far as taking pictures without his permission goes. That was very brave and I am very thankful to her!
I am 31 and far too old to be of interest to Mr Yan, but I go to Camden a lot and Brighton and I have been to Hyper Japan. He actually looked vaguely familiar to me. It is so important girls know what he looks and sounds like, and his colleagues, then they know to avoid him if he tries to ingratiate himself with them. Especially, as the idea I had in my head of him was a sleazy 50 something gangster, and actually he is late 30's and looks very innocuous.
Reading between the lines of the video, I think what Venus has posted is very clever, and it is possible she has had to run this past bodyline before posting it on the Internet, or at very least they could sue her if it was too inflammatory. In which case, thank goodness no one with good enough English to catch the nuances of what she was saying saw it. I only hope that is genuinely the worst that happened to the poor kid out there!
19th-Dec-2013 11:53 am (UTC)
This ! I think my 14 years old weeb self would've dream of going in Japan to model some kawaii moe moe sugoi ~ clothes, she only had "the chance" to go because of 1)Youtube popularity 2)strange mother. That's it, it's a child, all child want the world to turn around them and don't especially understand what they are going for. She did handle the thing well, but damn nobody can blame here for not imaging what would happen. Even if it don't look that much to adults, as a adolescent unwanted IRL attention from older men (who happened to be her employers !) is really difficult to deal with. She is kind of used to this on the internet (even tought I think Margaret filter it a lot), but this IRL pressure is not the same thing at all. I perfectly remember how awkward I was with men at this age. Having way older men hitting on you is kind of weird.
19th-Dec-2013 03:41 pm (UTC)
I think there are 3 situations going on here. very confusing :(
1. the situation about BL
2. the situation about venus
3. the whole Mr. Yan thing

In the end , venus did, what she did.( you can't change that ) And its up to you , if you want to buy from BL or not.
Everyone has there own opinion.
I hope we can respect everyone's opinion. :)

Edited at 2013-12-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
19th-Dec-2013 03:49 pm (UTC)
I think that either way we see it, sexual harassment or not, the lone fact that we have such a young girl having gone through all this psychological pressure is stunning in itself. There are just... so many wrong things in this video. Tellling in public the economical situation of her mother, having those pseudo-japanese dialogues (I hope you've noticed how much she's nervous), all the secret filming + being driven to such an isolated warehouse... what if anything (worse than it already is) happened? She couldn't have done anything. As for the rest of the modeling days. And really, a 12-hour working time? with only one break? This is illegal in every aspect, I can guess the "contract" not to be something official either. And yet the video is built all happy and joyful as nothing happened! I really can't believe this. But to sum up, I think the damage (even unconscious) for a little girl's mind is not indifferent. Hope there won't be any bad consequence in the future too.
[PS= sorry for the bad english!>.<]
19th-Dec-2013 04:15 pm (UTC)
Saying your mum doesn't have £10,000 in readily available savings doesn't make you particularly poor by British standards ( we put money into things like houses and cars more than some other countries) and I wouldn't see as a particularly embarrassing thing to share. They wanted her mum to put that much up as a bond for her completing the modelling work satisfactorily. You could buy an amazing 10 day holiday for both her and her mother in Japan for less than half that. The only reason someone would ask for that sort of guarantee is if they are a scammer! Her mum would have been insane to agree.
Other than that, totally agree with what you are saying! :-)
19th-Dec-2013 04:21 pm (UTC)
Venus' mom needs to get her act together and not send her child on trips without someone related to her, or who has a good reputation and a clean background. You can dig up potential harassment of young girls by bodyline just by googling their contest. That's a major red flag. Their past as a skeezy shop is another red flag. I would NEVER, were I a parent, agree to send my teenage child to model for a company that is essentially a reformed sex shop which STILL SELLS items which are clearly sexy bedroom costumes (look at the santa stuff they add every year).

Venus is a 15-year-old kid. I'm not a fan of her work, but she is a kid (no offense to the people here who are young). She could have easily have been pressured into this by her mother, or simply not known better. She clearly is not comfortable in the initial meetings. Her body language is suspicious, anxious, closed and downright unhappy. That's not a kid who has won a contest and is really happy about it. That is a kid who is in a situation she doesn't want to be in.
19th-Dec-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
I agree. Margaret Palermo is not a good parent and even if Venus was initially enthusiastic about all this, SHE IS A KID.
19th-Dec-2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
From some comments on here: apparently when you're 16 years old you're all grown up now and
Can defend yourself.
19th-Dec-2013 10:55 pm (UTC)
From some comments on here: apparently being asked whether you'd like to marry someone constitutes sexual harassment, and being taken to a garment warehouse - where garments to be modeled are - is endangerment of a minor, and something said minor needed to be 'defended' from.

The sad part is, this whole "I am a wee child victim of sexual harrassment" schtick is getting exactly the criticism-free sympathetic response she wanted. You know, the criticism she rightly got when she went around posting toxic things about Yoshiko.
19th-Dec-2013 10:16 pm (UTC)
I.... Don't think I'll be ordering from Bodyline anymore....
I've only bought one JSK and one pair of socks from them, but I think those will be my last.
20th-Dec-2013 03:43 pm (UTC)
I feel the same. I don't really have much from them. I couldn't resist Squirrel Party, but now.. now I don't want anything from this company. I had no idea.
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