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LOL Milan** 
7th-Feb-2013 10:24 am
well-behaved women never make history
During a moment of boredom I decided to see what trashiness Milan** had got up to lately--I'd heard (either here or on tumblr) they were now trying to position themselves as taobao resellers. Their site is indeed now full of taobao dresses. They are now claiming to be an authorised HMHM reseller (wat) but the HMHM stuff they have for sale is marked up $20-30 more than the same stuff elsewhere, for example:

http://www.milanoo.com/Ruffled-Trim-Embroidery-Terry-Classic-Lolita-Skirt-p218172.html

vs the same skirt on this page:

http://clobbaonline.com/index.php?p=1_12

I thought the draw of Milanot to the clue-deprived was that they were cheap? I don't even.

(One of my major good deeds last year was saving a co-worker's daughter from her mother's BRILLIANT PLAN to save $$$ on her prom dress.)

Apparently, Milan** can't even manage to reform themselves without scamming people, only now it's getting them to spend $20-$30 more on taobao dresses. If they even are those brands. I mean how low do you have to go to rip off taobao shops that are cheap to begin with, but would you really put it past them?
Comments 
7th-Feb-2013 08:33 pm (UTC)
This is genuinely off-topic, but for the record, I think the reason why we write Milan** instead of Milanoo is because we don't want to feed its Google page rank. In actuality, linking to a website is the exact feature Google uses to rank search results, and regular type more or less doesn't matter. It's safe to say Milanoo, but if you're trying not to contribute to its page rank, break the link URL in some way so that it's not a functioning hyperlink.

Also, yeah, Milanoo is totally embarrassing, but Taobao "shopping services" have historically been a lot worse. I mean, look at Qutieland. They mark up some of their goods as much as 100%, even though they're available at retail price directly from the source. So Milanoo's not the worst I've seen in that arena, but yeah, I will continue to buy from Taobao shops using regular services at a flat commission rate.

At least they're actually offering quality goods now. Previously it was just a quagmire of junk.
7th-Feb-2013 09:44 pm (UTC)
^ Reason #1 to just take screencaps. More viewer friendly, plus, not feeding them any click through because that's probably why so many starter loli's fall prey to them (finding them at the top of a google search).
8th-Feb-2013 01:54 pm (UTC)
Is it bad that I'm strongly tempted to see if I can diminish their page rank via google's FAQ?
http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66356

9th-Feb-2013 06:09 am (UTC)
That would be awesome...
9th-Feb-2013 05:57 am (UTC)
I had no idea how much some of the taoboa resellers marked things up until I went in on a group order. One of the popular resellers wanted something like $40 plus shipping for a Classical Puppets petticoat. Through a shopping service group order I paid $33, including shipping.
7th-Feb-2013 11:18 pm (UTC)
I was actually thinking about this the other day. I think cheapness is part of their draw, but I think the main reason people choose them is a combination of three things:
1. It is easy to find the item & buy it
2. Great seo/marketing
3. General trust for online purchasing

It's a lot easier to buy from Milanoo than it is to find a shopping service, find an item on taobao, make an order, etc. They are much easier to find compared to legit taobao ss sites like qutieland, and they look professional and so people trust them. The 1990s era distrust for online purchases has mostly vanished with the feedback systems in place at places like ebay, the protections offered by PayPal, and the major legit shopping sites like amazon. People expect to get what they see, and rarely look up reviews. It doesn't help that milanoo's site looks more advanced than many brand sites.
8th-Feb-2013 02:38 am (UTC)
I don't think its fair to say the "scam" is that they are upcharging prices from Taobao because plenty of other resellers do that online and if its a matter of how high they upcharge the line gets muddy... where you do decide someone is on the border of "scam" by upcharge or just upcharge for service?

They scam people because they sell shitty products with stolen photos, leave items out of packages, pay bloggers to give "unbias" reviews, and its (to my knowledge) impossible to return or dispute to get your money back.
8th-Feb-2013 07:30 pm (UTC)
If someone does leave a negative review, they will occasionally make a sockpuppet account on whatever site it was and proceed to either wheedle the person into giving them a second chance or insult and berate them with accusations of being haters, racist, or unstylish.

Also, has anyone else noticed there are literally no low star ratings on their products? There may be no ratings but there are never single to three star ratings. Even the reviews which says things like "This was totally not what I expected to get. Never buying from here again, terrible quality!" might have five stars on them. I wouldn't put it past milanoo to fudge ratings so people end up buying.
9th-Feb-2013 05:53 am (UTC)
A friend of mine, unbeknownst to me, hired Milanoo to make her bridesmaids' dresses. They showed up on time--and nothing like they were supposed to. Thankfully the bridesmaids could all sew. But she posted about it to facebook and it was hard not to get exasperated--if your'e going to buy a bunch of very important dresses, wouldn't you look up a review of the seller? Or has Lolita just made me paranoid?
9th-Feb-2013 06:13 am (UTC)
IMO, if it's important to you (ie. stuff for your wedding), check it out in person or do your homework before buying. To just dive into some mysterious website and buy it sight unseen is just asking for it, especially when it's something super visible and important, like bridesmaid dresses, unless the bride's entire plan was to have them wear terrible looking sacks so that her gown looks better in comparison...
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