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29th-Jan-2013 02:25 pm
Hi, my name is Mikiri ^.^ I've been in love with lolita for about 2 or 3 years now, and i'm ordering my first actual lolita OP this weekend.
I did however want an opinion on a dress I impulse-bought that seemed very lolitable to me, it was too fabulous to pass up upon finding it in person.
Would you mind lending your opinions on whether or not it would be considered lolita with the right co-ord?

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Please excuse the selfies, flash, and blur, as well as my awkward pose.
I am planning on replacing the silly crinoline on the underskirt with a crushed velvet ruffle, so it adds some length and looks less icky. I hate when crinoline is exposed, so cheap!

Anyways, thoughts, criticism, advice? Thanks! <3
29th-Jan-2013 10:29 pm (UTC)
I'd say the general shape and pattern = yes, length = no as lolita skirts/dresses should reach at least 1" above your knee. Google some images for reference :)
29th-Jan-2013 11:55 pm (UTC)
I've seen a lot of dresses but the exact "correct" length seemed to be a bit of a grey area to me depending on height. I am 5'9" hahaha very long legs. But yes unfortunately there was a misunderstanding and it was altered much too short, it reaches 3.5" above my knee =[
29th-Jan-2013 10:41 pm (UTC)
I think you could definitely make it work with the right cord IF you were indeed going to put a ruffle on the bottom :) You can even leave the crinoline and just cover it but PLEASE don't used crushed velvet!! It is not considered a good material for lolita at all.

So yes, good ruffle on the bottom and bolero or cardigan over the top or proper blouse underneath and I think it could work okay :)
29th-Jan-2013 11:52 pm (UTC)
crushed velvet wasnt the correct fabric haha excuse me. I did just mean velvet, as the designs in the dress are velvet, and I thought it would be a nice way to adjust the length.
it originally came to much below my knee so I took it to be altered, but they misunderstood me and took it too high =[
29th-Jan-2013 11:02 pm (UTC)
It's a really cute dress, but you'll need a ruffle of at least 3 inches (assuming the crinoline is about one inch) to reach an appropriate length. And, yeah, don't use crushed velvet either.

Out of curiosity, are you going to be a classic lolita or a gothic one? I can sort of see this dress going either way ^_^;
29th-Jan-2013 11:53 pm (UTC)
I would like to see how it could be done classically, as
i do love classic brands, but my personal style leans more toward gothic ^.^
29th-Jan-2013 11:32 pm (UTC)
If you can find a nice black gothic-y blouse to go under, and somehow add length to the bottom of the dress, yeah it would totally work!
29th-Jan-2013 11:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks! =]
30th-Jan-2013 12:39 am (UTC)
Thisi sbeautiful but it looks more like a Rockabilly dress
30th-Jan-2013 01:05 am (UTC)
^^Very rockabilly. Needs more ruffles to be lolita in my opinion! XP But that's just me, hehe. Add some length on the bottom, and if it were me I would want to add ruffles like... Everywhere. Cause I love ruffles so much it's unhealthy. If you were to use it for lolita I would call it more casual gothic because sever lack of lace and frills is... Severe. Though if you did put the right super-duper ruffly blouse with it that would help considerably! :D /throws in her two cents
30th-Jan-2013 09:00 pm (UTC)
Yes it definitely is, I bought it in a store called Culture that does cater to rockabilly fashion, but I thought the silhouette and the bows on the front would make it lolitable with some modifications =]
30th-Jan-2013 03:16 am (UTC)
This is more Rockabilly imo. If you wanna make it more lolita, I would either add ruffles at the bottom like people above said, or make/buy an underskirt. I don't really like the idea of a velvet ruffle, though, because it's rather heavy (which could cause it to loose the shape) and honestly, unless you're experience with sewing, velvet can go really badly really quickly. I'd also had some more details to the straps and such. Right now, it looks kinda plain.
30th-Jan-2013 09:02 pm (UTC)
It has a halter top, but the straps are so stiff with the material that I can't tie it in a bow. I would love recommendations for what to do to make the straps/top more lolita. Should I remove them and make it a strapless? I am planning on wearing t with a very ruffled black blouse.
30th-Jan-2013 03:27 am (UTC)
It'll take some work to make it look Lolita, but I think you can do it. With the right accessories you might be able to make it work for punk Lolita. If you add a ruffle, I would use a medium-weight black cotton instead of velvet. (And definitely not crushed velvet like everyone else said.) I would definitely make it longer than the crinoline currently is, but if you go too much longer it might look strange.
30th-Jan-2013 09:04 pm (UTC)
No not crushed velvet, I get the two confused sometimes but I have distinguished the difference haha. I'm not planning on making it too much longer, probably 3". I am tall, so i'm not expecting to lengthen it to my knees and have it look fantastic.
30th-Jan-2013 07:06 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm just going to repeat what everyone said and get an underskirt to add some length to it, and from there you're just going to have to worry about accessorizing it.

I love the dress though, if I had it I might just keep it as is and wear it casually.
30th-Jan-2013 09:03 pm (UTC)
It has a built in under skirt that has that stupid crinoline, I actually asked the tailors to remove it, but again the misunderstandings. My plan was to add the ruffle to the built in underskirt in place of the crinoline trim.
30th-Jan-2013 09:06 am (UTC)
Stockings or tights would help this look, the white of your leg in comparison to the darkness of the dress is more jarring and makes it look more obvious that the dress is a bit short. Try getting some matte tights to draw the eye away from the knee until you get the dress extended.
30th-Jan-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much I didn't think of this til all your suggestions on here =] I won't be wearing it in public for awhile haha but i'll keep this in mind!
30th-Jan-2013 12:05 pm (UTC)
It doesn't have the right motifs to be loli-able but it's a nice dress.
30th-Jan-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your opinion, but what motifs is it missing? I'm not looking for it to be sweet or classic, I do prefer a simplistic gothic style. It has bows and velvet, and a "lolita" silhouette, though I don't like the straps or lack of ruffles/lace, hence my decision to modify it.
30th-Jan-2013 03:09 pm (UTC)
That dress is beautiful!
Indeed it could do with a bit more length and a proper lolita blouse to make it more true lolita, but I reckon you could easily wear it with other lolita items in the meantime for a loli-inspired co-ord :)
30th-Jan-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much! ^.^
30th-Jan-2013 04:34 pm (UTC)
It's HellBunny, right?
I love their dresses but they are indeed more rockabilly than lolita.
I also suggest adding a layer of ruffles to make the dress longer, with the notion that you'd better stay away from red as a second colour with this dress, for that would take the lolita right out of it. You could go with all black, but even white and grey.
Or maybe moitie blue?
30th-Jan-2013 05:40 pm (UTC)
It's H&R London, I think. I have the tailcoat version (which is fabulous).

OP, everything I would've said with regards to style has been said already, but I'd like to add that you should make sure you don't wear the dress too hard. The velour on my coat started to bald within a month of wearing it. Probably not so noticeable on yours, since it's all black, but mine's black x purple, so it's really obvious. xD
30th-Jan-2013 05:29 pm (UTC)
Seconding the ruffle bits (you might need two layers of it to make it the right length). I'd also recommend sewing lace (look for high quality black lace; white will make it look cheap. to check for quality, you can brush the lace against your skin. avoid anything that's scratchy or stiff) along the top or both of the sweetheart neckline areas (the satin strip that goes right over your bust) and maybe some around the sleeves.I would also recommend skipping the thigh-highs and going with tights, possibly patterned tights.

It's a cute dress, though, even if it's not quite lolita [yet]!
30th-Jan-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I didn't think it was lolita now, i'm willing to make it a project!

I love the tights idea, I should invest in more tights due to my height haha.
I also love the double ruffle idea, it would make the dress look much better than one long ruffle.
Would you suggest removing the straps and leaving it strapless? Should I do the ruffle in black lace if i'm lining the neckline with lace?
As I said, I was planning on using velvet but I wasn't decided for sure so i'm loving all the opinions and inspiration, I appreciate it!
30th-Jan-2013 10:14 pm (UTC)
I have the longversion, its a brilliant dress :) also an impulse buy, lol
When I tried it on, as I was wondering about the strap being hard to tie, the crazy shop lady tied it in front like a littlescarf. Not loli, but it looked pretty cute n.n
Im not sure how you could lolify the short one, mine goes just below my knees :/
30th-Jan-2013 10:47 pm (UTC)
yes thats how long it was! I felt it looked like a tacky prom dress at that length on me though >.< so I had it hemmed and she took it way too short T.T
that's interesting about the neck tie!
5th-Feb-2013 06:15 am (UTC)
I don't know what style of loli you are interested in, but this dress would be perfect for punk (in my humble opinion). The pattern of the dress and the A-line silhouette lends itself well to the punk style.
5th-Feb-2013 07:22 pm (UTC)
I haven't really seen much punk loli, and I'm not really a punk fan >.>
My inspiration for style and appearance comes mainly from victorian gothic, especially lovely porcelain dolls.
I'm a makeup artist though, so my face tends to take liberties on the style from time to time haha
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