The EGL Community
For Gothic & Lolita Fashion. Hosted by LiveJournal.
DARK SKIN lolitas. 
11th-Nov-2012 12:51 pm
Now let's be honest here. What does everyone think of dark skin in lolita fashion?
We all have our own opinions. I've heard sweet style is the last thing people want to see a dark girl wearing. I personally think that blond hair can be a bit much on a dark girl unless she knows how to pull it off but other than that I see no problems. I'm in the process of becoming a full time lolita and I'm wondering what other lolitas will think of me.
The colors I primarily wear are: lavender, mint, green, sax, black and white. Occasionally pink. My dream style is hime. Right now I don't have a particular style.
11th-Nov-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
I don't think skin color matters as long as you put together a great outfit and are comfortable wearing it. Anyone who thinks anything of you for having dark skin and wearing lolita is an idiot. They are clothes and anyone can wear them. And anyone can wear any style. Some of my favorite sweet coordinates have been worn by Michaela in London who is dark skinned. Many sweet prints come in primary colors that look good on most skin tone (royal blue, red, etc).
11th-Nov-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Think I'll pop in here, firstly to say, thanks for the huge compliment Jo - means alot! Also, let's be honest. No one on EGL will come out and say "Nope, I don't think black lolita's look right". That doesn't mean that some lolitas don't think that. You can look at some of the "unsavoury" places online to see that opinion. I guess I wanna know why it matters? What does it matter what people think about it? There will always be people who think black people shouldn't do certain things. Heck, there will always be people who think women shouldn't do certain things! If you appeased those attitudes then think about all the things you wouldn't be able to do as a black woman.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that wear what you want, as long as you look good who cares. Yeah, you might have to second guess wearing certain colours and whatnots, but that people of all skin tones have to do that. Some things will flatter you, others won't. Just find what works for you and have fun!
11th-Nov-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
Oh I was already planning on wearing whatever I want. I just wanted to get some peoples opinion on the matter. Overall I think its an interesting subject. Like plus size lolitas, tattoos, piercings, you know anything out of the "norm" in lolita fashion.
12th-Nov-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
Heavily pierced and tattooed lolita here, I have actually come to the conclusion that there isn't really a norm in lolita fashion. A lot of people forget that this is an alternative fashion and we all express ourselves in different ways even if we have the fashion in common.
11th-Nov-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
I agree. As long as you don't give off an ita vibe, anything works. Thank you for your opinion.
11th-Nov-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
Wear what you like. Lolita isn't about making other people happy, it is about making you happy. Anyone who gives you issues over your skin color is a horrible person, end of discussion.
11th-Nov-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
Personally, I think that light colors look better on tan/black people, and dark colors suit fair complexions the best because of the contrast.
But that's a matter of personal taste...
12th-Nov-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
11th-Nov-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
Personally I think sweet is the first thing a dark skin girl should wear. The contrast is just beautiful. I've been really wanting to see a girl rock those giant puff ball pigtails with her natural hair.

Edited at 2012-11-11 06:08 pm (UTC)
11th-Nov-2012 07:39 pm (UTC)
Thats my dream also. Sadly my hair is way too short. I'm planning on styling my daughter's hair that way when I have one!
11th-Nov-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
I personally love the color contrast of pastel colors against darker skinned loli's, but I really don't see skin color as something that should hold a person back from wearing whatever they like.
11th-Nov-2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
To me, skin color doesn't matter at all when it comes to lolita, I've seen adorable dark skinned lolitas. Also, if wearing lolita fashion is something you want, you should just wear it. ^^
I know it's hard to ignore others' opinions, but you shouldn't be dependent on what others think. Be happy wearing the clothes you love.
11th-Nov-2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
I never saw that there are any styles or colors which look not as good on dark skin then on white skin. I even think pastel colors look better on darker skin because the colors stand out more!
11th-Nov-2012 07:03 pm (UTC)
I am mixed, and so have encountered this somewhat in my own experience. I find that blonde hair looks strange on my skin, and jet black is harsh. Blues, greens,
11th-Nov-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
(cut off!) and warm browns suit me best for hair.
As far as style, I think anyone can wear any style as long as the shades fit their skin tone. Very pale skin teens to suit blue toned pinks and blues, dark skin often suits warm creams, jewel tones, and bold shades like black and navy.
11th-Nov-2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
To quote you a little: I personally think that (blonde hair, pitch black hair, pastel wigs, sweet, gothic makeup, OTT, AP, rompers) can be a bit much on a (dark, light, olive, tall, larger, short) girl unless she knows how to pull it off.

There are a TON of things that might be difficult for anyone, of any color, to pull off. But there are girls still pulling it off every single day. I personally think, like others have said above, that the contrast of pastels and sweet on someone of a darker complexion looks absolutely amazing. Just go hard, all the way - go to a Macy's makeup counter if you need to to get the right tones for you, whether you're wearing warm pastels or cool pastels. Nothing shuts up critics like looking amazing.
11th-Nov-2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
My opinion is and always will be everyone deserves happiness in life and if lolita gives you happiness then you should wear it. That said it is true that some colours just don't suit some indivduals for a variety of reasons. I personally can't wear lavender or bright yellows as they make me look washed out and sickly. Without seeing you in them no one can tell you what colours suit you or don't. It'll be a process of trial and error to find your best shades and what you can get away with.
11th-Nov-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
I think everyone has to consider what will look good on their unique shape and with their unique colours. For example I'm pale but look unexpectedly weird as a blonde, and I just have to plan around that. IMO it's harder for darker skinned people to make full on pastel/pale colours look good, however strong colours like bright red/blue are great. Of course it will always come down to personal taste.
I think that part of the art of lolita is using what you have in the best way possible and to love what other people do with what they have. If your canvas is wrong for what you want to paint then it can be sad, but getting over it and finding something that looks kick-ass is great ^_^
11th-Nov-2012 07:56 pm (UTC)
As others have said, there's nothing inherently wrong with darker-skinned girls in lolita- you just have to find the shades that suit your particular skintone and the styles that suit your body type, like any other lolita out there. Some people say that pastels are best saved for pale girls while dark girls suit jewel tones best, but it's so much more complicated than that- I'm definitely darker-skinned and while pastel pink, baby blue, and some jewel tones like burgundy and purple look fantastic on me, pastel yellow and emerald green make me look pale and odd. Don't be afraid to experiment, since every sort of "dark skin" is very different and what works for one lolita of color might not suit you (and vice versa) c:

It can occasionally be a bit frustrating since lolita makeup and hair tutorials are usually pretty useless (they're made for pale-skinned girls with stick-straight hair in most cases), but I've generally found the fashion-related disadvantages to be pretty minimal. I actually kind of feel like I have an advantage over some other girls out there, since my natural hair works really well for a variety of lolita styles with absolutely minimal effort :) Most people will not tell you to your face that you are a bad lolita because you are black, and if they do they're stupid and not worth your time (based on my own personal experience, haha. Some people don't know how to keep their disgusting opinions to themselves.).

Edited at 2012-11-11 08:06 pm (UTC)
11th-Nov-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
Honestly, dark skinned Lolita's are extremely cute!

I actually have a dark skinned friend who I would happily stick in a Lolita dress.
One of the girls that does Lolita workshops at our Local cons is actually dark skinned. She wears sweet and she looks very nice. She even wears sweet Lolita.

Do what you will, no matter the color of your skin.
11th-Nov-2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
It saddens me that this question even need to be asked..You are beautiful and YOU'RE happiness is what matters here. End of discussion.
11th-Nov-2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
Also, when did we start caring about what other lolitas "preferred" seeing us in? Correct me if I am wrong but aren't we dressing in lolita for ourselves in the first place? Seriously people? I prefer not to see lolitas acting like complete shits to other lolitas!
12th-Nov-2012 03:58 am (UTC)

Jesus I was surprised to see the topic was even posted. :\ Can't we all just live and let live?
12th-Nov-2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
This is very well said.
13th-Nov-2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
Why, thank you doll face!
11th-Nov-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
Who gives two shakes of a lambs tail what color someone's skin/eyes/hair are? As long as you pick makeup that suits your colors, dress in colors/shapes that suit you, and pick hair styles/colors that suit your coloration and face shape, you are going to look great, no matter what your skin/hair/eyes coloration are.

And if you get right down to it, there people people who look fantastic in lolita from around the world... and those who don't. One could just as easily pull up a whole stack of photos of asian girls doing it wrong and claim that Asian girl's shouldn't wear lolita. Does that make it true? of course not. It's just people selectively hating, and that's just silly, IMHO.

As for the whole blonde thing... I'd look really bad as a blonde with my skin tone and eye/eyebrow/eyelash tone, IMHO, and I'm pale as paper. It's just a matter of matching your colors to the colors that look nice on you.

And, that's not to say that people can't wear colors that don't suit them; it's a free world. If you love pink, but it looks terrible on you, well, that's your prerogative if you wanna rock pink, you know? So what if you don't look like a perfect model; if you are dressing for yourself and to have fun, then, whatever, wear what you want, and if people give you flack about it, just say "I know it's not my best color; but I like it and it makes me happy so I wanted to wear it today."

*shrugs* personally, I think the people who say a whole style doesn't work on a whole race of people either lacks the imagination to visualize things properly, or is simply racist, even if they don't admit it to themselves or others.

I think it kinda sucks that it HAS to be something that is even questioned at all. I mean seriously? (Not directed towards the poster, just... the state of the loli-world, I guess)

Just my two cents...
13th-Nov-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
what you said about wigs is SO TRUE. my friend and i are both pale as paper, but my friend's skin gets red really easily. when she wears blonde wigs, she just looks so pink and awkward! she looks much better in dark colored wigs.

however, even though we're very similar in color, i love wearing blonde wigs and pull them off well, whereas she pulls off a dark brown wig way better than i could.

same thing with colors: certain shades of pink/peach just bleach me out and no matter what i do i cannot pull of red or brown. the friend i mentioned earlier, however, looks absolutely gorgeous in red. i just look awkward.

just goes to show that even people of very similar skin-tones look better in different things. it has to do with your eyes and hair and figure and how your skin reacts in sunlight and looks in certain lighting and everything!

11th-Nov-2012 09:23 pm (UTC)
I'm Indian, so I'm dark-skinned as well =3

Honestly, everyone has things and colors that look good on them, and things that don't. Just find what looks good on you and stick with that =3
I'll say that I don't think that any particular style Loli will just straight out look bad on dark skin; you may have to deviate a little bit from normal colors, where applicable, but whether or not a style looks good on you depends more on your body shape.

I personally wouldn't wear a blond wig as I think it would look bad on me, but not everyone who has dark skin looks bad with blonde hair; mebbe go to a wig store and try out the colors and see which looks good on you?

I've worn black, sweet, wa-loli, and gothic loli and have looked fine in all of 'em~! Actually, I think I mostly wear sweet XD

IMHO, I think you with something mint would look ADORABLE, and all the colors you mentioned I think would work well with your tone, although you may have to be a lil' careful on the shades of pink;

I think dark skin color is more a problem for cosplay, as there aren't as many choices ): but at the same time I've done a Misa cosplay and just skipped out on the blond hair and nobody complained~
11th-Nov-2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
You may get flack but those are from assholes to begin with. Lolita is a fashion style, and fashion adapts for anyone who has skill for it - anyone who has a problem with that has a problem with you even out of lolita, aka they're a waste of your time. One hopes such people take a leisurely walk into oncoming traffic.

IMO a lot of OTT trappings look pretty bad on a lot of people heh. Confidence/ballsiness variables aside, a lot of it is due to of thinking of skin tone in terms of dark vs. light only, ignoring undertone (yellow vs red, cool vs warm, etc.) which is what really makes an outfit 'perfect' in terms of colour selection. I've seen pale white girls and Asian girls looks like messes in certain pastel tones, ditto for darker girls who get washed out by X or Y colour they were told works for them just because they were a shade other than milky beige. :P

Tl;dr you do what you do to pick stuff that works for you, and that's all that matters.
23rd-Nov-2012 09:16 am (UTC)
I like your response.
12th-Nov-2012 02:38 am (UTC)
Hi yah! I'm a black loli (& chocolate!) and I PROMISE I've never enjoyed playing in color so much! There are gonna be negative comments, but if you enjoy it and rock it like you own it, who cares, right!? ;-D

12th-Nov-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
The last thing I wanna see a dark girl in is wa-lolita bodyline style


that's the last thing I want to see anyone in.

I honestly think the sweet styles, esp OTT with wigs and such can look really great on dark skin.
A lof of classic and country looks good too though, especially like, jewel tones in classic. Like solid colored and embroidered dresses, less floral (I don't know if florals look universally good on any type of person tbh).

Honestly I think your body type is more what might shoehorn you into a certain type rather than skin tone. If you have a really accented waist and larger hips for example, classic and things with more accentuated waists will look good (like most gothic). if you have a shorter torso, or a larger bust, or are just plain shorter, then sweet might have more elements that appeal to you: a cupcake poofed out shape (instead of A-Line), a tendency to add more fluffy and dangly elements. Bright patterns. patterns that direct attention to one part of the body etc.

In a way I think you have an advantage of some fairer-skinned girls (or might, everyone coloring is different so its hard to see before you try it on!). a lot of brands to light, pastel colors and I often find girls saying they can't wear red because it 'bring out the red' in their skin (or hair). many say the same thing for sax. I don't know many girls that think they can pull of lavender/lilac as well. These are great sweet style colors though, as you've already listed!
However, you may find things like, as mentioned before, yellow or greens make you look washed out, some girls have complained of things like green 'bringing out a green' in their skin. Again, it's one of those things thats very dependent on you trying on the item and seeing it in different lighting (daylight, indoor bright) to decide if it's flattering. you might think like dark purple looks bad on you, or dark blues, but it's hard to judge without seeing it.

The only lolita I STILL follow from years ago here on EGL is a dark skinned girl from NYC actually, she's into the gyaru and hime styles too and it doesn't seem too uncommon from what I've read on her fb to see them in gyaru as well? so you could probably find some make up tutorials that way

also, haha, if you go to /cgl/ on 4chan you can find threads about how good black girls look in lolita sometimes XD I only go there when super bored but I fdef saw one last time just full of beautiful pictures of black girls in lovely coordinates. its not impossible to find inspiration

Edited at 2012-11-12 03:30 am (UTC)
12th-Nov-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
I think skin color doesn't really matter when it comes to Lolitas and those who would tell you otherwise are bigots and have no taste to speak of. End of story.
12th-Nov-2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
I'm black, and when I first started out I was so self-concious of how my skin color (in my mind) contrasted so dramatically with my outfits. We live in a society where "paler is prettier," and girls with darker complexions often have a hard time accepting their own skin color. That can make wearing lolita for the first time (or any alternative fashion really) even more stressful. Pick things that fit your body type and coloring. Don't wear it just because it's cute or popular. Hair color and style is key too; I've personally found that wig colors and styles that a lot of lolitas tend to favor look horrible and fake on me, so I stick with black wigs or my natural hair.

There will always be people out there who are going to believe dark skin looks weird or wrong in lolita. The trick is to accept that and keep doing what you want to do because you love it. Surround yourself with positive people and you won't even care if/when someone claims you're skin color makes you less of a lolita. When you figure out what works for you, what makes you think to yourself "dude, I look AWESOME," then other people's opinions won't even matter to you anymore.
13th-Nov-2012 07:47 am (UTC)

'There will always be people out there who are going to believe dark skin looks weird or wrong in lolita'

The fact that this is actually a thing, and that there are people that genuinely think this way, makes me sick to my stomach. It completely boggles my mind that people even think this way.
23rd-Nov-2012 09:26 am (UTC)
Hey, it boggles your mind but it something Black girls (and other darker skinned girls) had to learn at a super young age so it wouldn't be that harrowing because you're taught "That's just how the culture is, try not to get killed by it."

I never really thought about my skin being bothersome in lolita. I pretty much figured what Shincaru said above, these folks wouldn't like me in or out lolita. Jeez, they don't even like me simply because I exist, why should I care what they think? The best that the OP can do is join Black Lolita groups here on LJ (LaLolitas) and FB (Black lolitas, Black Lolis), buy a Janelle Monae cd and be happy. No need to worry about klan-lolis (my term for dealing with bigots in the fashion), they're always gonna be there. You could be the president or a superhero and they'll still treat you like you're all of what's wrong with humankind wrapped into one person. Not worth being upset over because the OP will never have fun or be happy
12th-Nov-2012 08:09 pm (UTC)
Most of my favourite classic Lolita's have been dark skinned, and I know a couple girls in my community that do sweet well.
12th-Nov-2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
IMO, pastels, and light colours in general, look wonderful on dark skin! I love how the clothes contrast with the skin.
12th-Nov-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
I don't really have anything to add. I agree with most of what has been said here. I was thinking about dark skinned girls I've seen in lolita and what did I honestly think. Well, some of them looked very lovely and some of them were a mess......just like light skinned girls! So I thought more about the ones who were a mess. Was it their skin that made it that way? Honestly sometimes it was. But not in a 'black girls can't wear sweet lolita' way. It's more like if I wear pastel yellow. It is not going to matter one bit how perfect my co-ord is, how great my hair and make up is, how well suited to my figure the dress is. I will always look like a hot mess in yellow. My skin tone is all wrong for it. Any color of person can make that mistake.

In the end it's your body and your clothes. Rock what you like and forget the haters.

Edited at 2012-11-12 11:35 pm (UTC)
13th-Nov-2012 01:09 am (UTC)
i've never seen country lolita look as good on light girls and it does on dark girls, but that's my opinion.

but seriously, why does it matter? wear what you want to wear. wear the colors that suit your skin tone, no matter what it is. c:
13th-Nov-2012 05:46 am (UTC)
I am a dark skinned Lolita but I am mixed, kinda like the model Tyson Beckford. (Chinese Grandpaarent but with dark skin)
I totally get what you mean about light colors on dark skin. Being a Sweet Lolita but I acutally started off gothic.
I was heavily into metal and goth fashion for most of my teens, but I lived in Asia as a child
so I was used to stares and such.
It did not bother me until I moved to New York and went to a predominately black/latino
school for the first time.
I was called a number of derogatory names for being an Asian Black girl who prefered rock music over rap.
I was one of 3 goths in the whole school.

Yeah it bothered me somewhat but it did not stop me from dressing that way.
I learned from that experience when I first started getting into Sweet Lolita and was worried
about how I would be preseved in a pastel gothic lolita wig but I chanelled that strength
from my high school days and wore it with confidence. I have not looked back.

Even today, my friends tell me I look best with colored hair, especially bright red.

So do not let any other Lolita or person for that matter dictact what you should wear or how you should
style your hair based on what they preseve to be suitible. You wear what makes you feel good and
if anyone has a problem with it, that is their problem, not yours.

Think of Nikki M. I may not like her music but I think it is cool that she made dark girls with
pink hair look cool.
13th-Nov-2012 10:08 am (UTC)
I think black girls make the most beautiful shiro lolis! <3
13th-Nov-2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
I think lolita fashion looks really cute on dark skinned lolitas as well and I can't believe this is an issue for some in the 21th century!!
15th-Nov-2012 12:49 pm (UTC)
Dark skinned is kind of broad. I'm a bit olive toned, but I think I look good in different colors than a girl who's dark chocolate toned... I also think it's a lot of if your skin has a warmish feel or a coolish feel. I look good awful in mangeta and purple, because my skin is so warm. I've olive skin, hazel eyes, and reddish golden tones in my hair.. So I look best in peaches, maroon, etc. You seem warm skinned too, from your photo, and I imagine peachy pinks and yellows would look really cute if you're sweet, and maroon and mahogany if you're classic... Warm tones tend to look better in cream than in pure white too.
19th-Nov-2012 01:32 pm (UTC)
Like a lot of other people said here, how something looks on you depends all on the "under tone" of the skin and your shape of the body. Just like everyone. Wearing the wrong color or clothes for your body shape might turn a perfect coord to a not so good coord. But again, same goes for everyone.
It doesn't matter what gender, age, race or so on you are, if you have the right colors for your skin an shapes for your body then you can rock every style you want.

But what mostly counts is that you feel beautiful in what you wear.
29th-Nov-2012 07:23 am (UTC)
It doesn't matter at all. I don't know why anyone would make such a fuss. It makes absolutely no difference.
This page was loaded , : m GMT.