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The busty lolita? 
12th-Jun-2012 08:56 pm

Hey guys it's gabs again with a quick question 
I was poking around clobaoonline looking for something to maybe buy. I stumbled upon this little cutie
 also this jem; 
 the sizing on these two items for am extra large is 
Bust; 96cm 
Waist: 78cm
Length: 94cm (which makes me a little nervous I'm 5'4")
 But the real problem is with the bust measurements I'm 98-100cm around. I plan to lose weight but I've always been a little busty,I'd hate to have to alter everything because it doesn't fit my bust and is to big around the waist or not being able to buy certain things because it doesn't come in my size. 
 My question is how do other and more experienced lolitas deal with the certain sizing some brands have? Do you alter? How often to you alter? How often do you get disappointed when you just cant have it?

13th-Jun-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
Go through an actual shopping service (taobaospree, taobaobuying, etc) to order from taobao stores (infanta, dear celine, hmhm, kidsyoyo, etc), and have the items custom made. Most shops will custom make items at a small fee for larger sizes. I recommend going to your nearest tailoring/alterations shop to have a professional fitting done. Thanks for your time, best of luck. Clobba and Qutieland will do the custom orders too, but you're paying a lot more going through their store fronts than simply taking an extra step to go through an actual SS. Probably also avoid designs like your second link, the detail on the underbust (that navy line under the bust section) is probably going to hit your breasts instead of your actual underbust and it will look odd.

Edited at 2012-06-13 01:08 am (UTC)
13th-Jun-2012 01:04 am (UTC)
I'm slimmer overall than you are, but my bust is a bit disproportionate to the rest of me. The best thing I've found is to avoid JSKs - they rarely fit me in both waist and chest, and when they do, I tend to get awkward pancake boob. Skirts and blouses tend to be easier to manage, both in brand and offbrand, in my experience. Especially since offbrand blouses are easier to find in stores, so you can try them on and make sure your bounty isn't overflowing.
13th-Jun-2012 01:13 am (UTC)
For me, Lolita is a giant waiting game. If I really love something I will generally buy two of them and then alter bits and pieces to make sure I look my best. For brands, sometimes they will release a nonprint tote or accessory that I can pull apart to add Vs under the arms for my bust. Another alteration I would do is to make a longer waist band to sit things at my natural waist rather than under my bust line (I'm 6' tall). When something is super high prices (look at Vampire Requiem, Seraphim, Medphisto, etc) it might take me years... YEARS to finally track down the item or (items) I need in order to fit it correctly. This waiting game is also so I can snag these items at lower prices. It would be impossible to do this with every item at the height of its popularity.

For taobao items many of them are able to be custom sized if your shopping service is willing to ask for that service. You might also have to pay more for custom sized items because the tailor will have to make a new pattern.

How often do I get disappointed? A lot. However, altering is somewhat of a test of my taste. Sometimes, I will decide that I don't love a piece enough to forgo the resell price and alter it beyond salvaging. Luckily I was taught how to sew by my mother so if I like something and there is no way I will ever be able to fit it I can design/sew something that is a mental replacement for me. There was once a dark green OP by Baby that was made with tons of pearls. I finally bought it but it would have taken sooo many repairs and alterations that it was silly to even think of it. As a mental replacement I commissioned a seamstress on the community to make a dress in the same style (although I did change one bit that I didn't really love) and I resold the original.

If you're not the standard lolita brand size it is definitely a different experience to build up your wardrobe but for me it has not detracted from the overall experience. I have merely gained a lot more skill anda better editing eye when buying things.
13th-Jun-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
That's a lot of awesome alterations! I would seriously love to see some of the things you've altered! This is something I've always wanted to do (too tiny skirts in my favorite prints = bustle backs!) but I simply don't have the patience or the skills to do it!
13th-Jun-2012 01:35 am (UTC)
Good on you for all the alterations! I need to get together the money and the COURAGE to find brand pieces and MAKE THEM fit my frame. I'm 5'8" and of medium build with Germanic shoulders.

I admire the heck out of people who alter brand. So far I am "off brand" usually to measure and indies.
13th-Jun-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
thanks those are a lot of good ideas im learning to sew from my nana so when my skills get up to par ill be able to put these tips to use
13th-Jun-2012 01:34 am (UTC)
For what it's worth, I'm also 5'4" and I have a coat from infanta (who makes both of those dresses) that was custom made for me when my bust was that size (my waist was around 78cm at the time) and it fit perfectly; they didn't seem to have any trouble adjusting the pattern. Length can generally be customized as well. Honestly, most things on taobao can be gotten in custom sizes (though there is often a small fee).

If I really fall in love with something and it won't fit in the bust, I look around for the skirt version and see if it would work. Buying things with the plan of altering them makes me kind of nervous; mostly because I never seem to get around to it, so I try to avoid getting into situations where it's the only option if I can help it.
13th-Jun-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
thats good to know i have been wanting to try out taobao but i get a little confused with the ordering process
13th-Jun-2012 01:56 am (UTC)
I don't know if this quite fits what you're looking for, but I've always found this post helpful
13th-Jun-2012 06:50 pm (UTC)
it made me a little confused XD
13th-Jun-2012 02:16 am (UTC)

I have the first dress you posted, the black one, in the XL Size. The fabric is very nice, thick and sturdy. The lace around the neck and the lace on the sleeves on my dress are two different patterns, but both are soft and high quality. The lace on the sleeves touches your arms if you are not wearing a blouse beneath, so its important that it is not scratchy or anything. The fabric that my dress is made of is slightly different than the picture you posted, the flower print is larger, and in my opinion nicer. (Hmmm, now that I'm looking, it seems like the fabric in Clobba's picture, Infanta's stock pics, and my actual dress, all of the fabrics are different. They are all black and weave, but the print of the flowers is different.)

Now the bad news :(
My measurements (not professionally or recently taken) are about 92 cm in the bust and 66 cm in the waist. The dress that I have in the XL size fits me quite well. Its a little loose in the waist, and there is some room in the bust (plenty for a blouse underneath) but I only have to tighten the lacing in the back a little. So unfortunately I don't think it would fit your bust. :( On the other hand, I am Five foot eight or nine inches, and the length comes to about two inches over my knee with a monstrous classical puppets petti. Without a petti, the hem definitely reaches my knees, but since the fabric is so thick, it drapes a little weird if it doesn't have enough poof under it, at least in my opinion.

I'd say that Infanta's Clothing is beautiful, and nicely made, but in my personal experience it seems to run a little small or about true to size. I also have their "Nightwish" blouse in XL (which doesn't seem to be on the site anymore) and that is a bit tight in the bust, despite being similar measurements listed. Thankfully, as far as I know they do custom sizing and your dress would probably fit even better if you had it made to your actual measurements... As long as you are willing to wait a little bit for it to arrive!

Haha, sorry for the ramble post, I just really like the dress and Infanta in general. I really hope it works out for you! Let me know if you want any more pics or have anyother questions.

PS, if you have a tailor nearby, you can see if they will take your measurements for you, might be more accurate than getting a friend to do it.

Worn (as part of a halloween costume, excuse the blurryness and other strangeness) :

Picture of the fabric of my dress:

Another pic of the dress(yes, it is that poofy! <3<3<3)
13th-Jun-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
oh noooes I hope that if i get custom made it would fit better. where did you order it from?
13th-Jun-2012 03:46 am (UTC)
I actually put in an order with Clobba, because it was the first time I was ordering from Taobao.
His service is a little pricier I think, but he was great to deal with and his english is very good.
The two pictures I posted he took specially for me, I'm pretty sure, to show the new fabric.
13th-Jun-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
I normally don't have problem because I'm too poor to buy most anything anyways

Edited at 2012-06-13 03:11 am (UTC)
13th-Jun-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
My bust is much larger than my waist, my bust is a bit bigger than yours, generally 102cm, and my waist is usually at 78cm. I definitely makes life difficult really. I've lost weight before, but it NEVER comes off my bust XD. I have a fantastic bra that I bought specifically for lolita that takes a couple inches off my bust and makes most of my dresses a bit more comfy :)

I can't really buy anything that sits at an empire waist because it makes me look weird. The most trouble I have though is finding blouses that fit everywhere right. It if fits my bust then chances are it will be too short and ride up or not fit my thinner waist.

When it comes to brand shopping, it always means making purchases on items that have a full back shirring (or even full shirring). It is often that a dress is released that I really want but I know it won't fit my boobs. It is really disappointing.
13th-Jun-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
Thank god for this post I was going to ask something similar. I've got and impossible bust about 118 cm and my waist is the bodyline M. So I thought I could wear an M blouse. NOPE. My boobs burst outta that thing like I'm waiting to go onstage at GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS. I've learned to either find loliable blouses instore or buy with shirring it also helps that my mother in law is teaching me to sew. Hopefully someday I can learn to make blouses for a more American figure.
13th-Jun-2012 04:38 pm (UTC)
Hello fellow busty lolita! I'm about 97-98 cm. I have had two dresses altered, both dream dresses of mine that were very hard to find. I took them to a tailor because I was too nervous to do it myself, but both came out very well. Other than that, I just own a lot of stuff with either full shirring or full back shirring. I also make some of my own stuff. I tend to buy a lot of offbrand tops as well, I have a few brand blouses that fit pretty well but button gaping is a pretty big problem for me D: I can't say there's a ton that I've been super dissapointed that I can't have. But my taste tend to be a little outside the norm and most of the stuff I really love is from Meta or Baby, which are a little more flexible in sizing than other brands.
13th-Jun-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
thanks for the reply where do you find some of those blouse thats my main problem
14th-Jun-2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
Most of mine are from mainstream stores, like Forever 21, or vintage. I do quite a bit of thrifting, both online and in person. It's kind of hit or miss but it's worth it for the cheap prices and great finds I occasionally come across. I'd also suggest looking for cardigans and shrugs! They're a bit easier to find and look great with dresses.
14th-Jun-2012 12:43 am (UTC)
De-lurking just to express my sympathies. I have a large chest and quite smaller waist, which makes most plus size things weirdly roomy in the waist and tight in the chest. Add to that, as a boy once told me, I'm "built like a Valkyrie" and have broad shoulders so pretty much no brand jsks or ops fit me right. I usually opt for a skirt and a blouse, but it's really frustrating when you see that piece you just love but could never wear. =)
14th-Jun-2012 11:15 pm (UTC)
I'm slim with a large bust which for me often creates problems in that my clothing will fit me everywhere BUT my bust. I'm generally OK with brand JSKs as long as they have shirring (not OPs for some reason, my bust seems to take away the extra room that should be in the shoulders) and go for large Bodyline and Taobao blouses. I have an ETC JSK which I just love too much despite it not having any shirring and so being too small on my bust, but I let the seams out a little which added a couple of cms and it's now ok, still a bit tight but wearable.

Pretty much just avoid underbust designs like the plague, only go with shirred designs unless your willing to alter, and take advantage of custom sizes on Taobao. I always wear minimizing or sports bras with lolita aswell just to try and tame them a little bit.

Also for blouses and stuff be sure to check out places like eBay, you can sometimes find some nice vintage blouses that would fit you better than proper lolita blouses. I often buy high street chiffon blouses for under JSKs too, like this
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