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Indian Lolita 
8th-Feb-2012 01:04 pm
angelic pretty, sweet jam, me



Hi everyone!

I'm of Indian (Hindu) background. I grew up not really getting to know much about my heritage, mainly because of my father (long, long story). But I want to go back to it - not necessarily in the sense of the religion, but I want to learn about and practice Hindu culture, which I'm slowly learning can be done with or without several religious aspects.

Oh gosh, I guess that last bit of background wasn't so important. I just want to be able to keep my love of lolita fashion, and keep wearing it everyday, but maintain some dedication to Indian clothing, at least every now and then. (I know that's not a requisite of Hinduism or anything, but I feel like I'm denying my heritage by not wearing Indian clothing now and then).

I have seen combinations of traditional Chinese, Japanese, and Korean clothing mixed into lolita fashion. I was wondering if anyone had ideas of mixing Indian fashion into lolita, or if someone has done this before? I found this site, and I thought maybe some of these could be adapted into lolita fashion? These are more examples of churidars, which I feel would be more casual than sairs to adapt into lolita clothing. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you!
~Agni


picture is from here.
Comments 
8th-Feb-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
If you're handy with the sewing, traditional fabrics could make a stunning JSK or skirt. Even if you're not too handy, skirts are cake. :3
You could even make a matching headwrap! :D
8th-Feb-2012 09:12 pm (UTC)
ooh~ that's a good idea! I am pretty sure my mother has sari fabric around; do you know of craft stores that sell traditional or traditional looking fabric, by any chance? Thank you!
8th-Feb-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
I think it would work and look amazing! I'm working on doing the same with African Prints as that is a part of my heritage. Pop over to sew-loli.livejournal.com, I'm sure they will be able to help :D let us know how you get along!
8th-Feb-2012 09:10 pm (UTC)
oh~ that's a good idea! thank you for the link to this community! ( I kept typing it in without the dash, and I couldn't find it... I feel so silly now, ahaha ^^; )
Wow~ African prints - that would be amazing! so pretty~ I would love to see that~! ^^
8th-Feb-2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
I think it would mix amazingly! Now I wish I still worked in the old indian shop I use to. I would always think of ways to mix their clothing into lolita... But never tried it.
8th-Feb-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
Aw~ I'm glad I am not the only one who has thought of this idea, though.^_^ What is the shop that you worked at?
8th-Feb-2012 09:41 pm (UTC)
I think the dress thingys on the first site could work really well, just add a petti and maybe a blouse and you're done really, you could use the scarf things most of them come with as a waist bow or a cravat. Also, this one is gorgeous http://salwarkameezonline.com/blueanarkalisuit-p-1820.html <3
8th-Feb-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
gosh, that one is pretty~ <3
I think I will make my own, but definitely base it off of the overall effect of outfits like that. Thank you for the suggestion!
8th-Feb-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
DO you live in a place that has a bunch of indians? If so then there is likely places nearby that sell the fabrics you are looking for, I know I see them sometimes and there is a strong indian influence here.

I would just make it from scratch instead of adapting something, as it would be easier to get the shape you want. Sure you can 'make' the ones that have a roomy skirt work, but it will tend to just look...odd. Like you literally just wore a petticoat with the traditional clothes, isntead of you took the fabrics and ideas of the indian fasion and smushed it into lolita.

Kinda of like how Meta does wa-lolita by just using the fabric in a normal lolita way, instead of the harder way of trying to actually make the styles work.
8th-Feb-2012 10:07 pm (UTC)
+1.

Make your own items from traditional. Even if something can fit a petti dosent mean its loliable or can transition well.

Do something like how meta does its their wa-loli kimono print stuff, then kaybe dress it up with traditional jewelry or accessories. Or any plain non print outfit can easily be transformed with adding the right amount of accessories to the outfit.
8th-Feb-2012 10:03 pm (UTC)
I'm actually just only beginning to get into Lolita, but I'm an Indian with pretty traditional upbringing, so I hope I can help out, somewhat! c:

Agreeing with what someone mentioned earlier about making a skirt out material--I'm trying to adapt my old langas/parkinis into skirts, too. I'm a fan of pants, too, so I'm trying to figure out ways to adapt chudidhar/salwar pants. I've also been planning on playing around with making "traditional" Lolita clothes "Indianized", if that makes sense. You could also take old tops and turn them into proper blouses, and Indian-esque accessories, I'm sure, will help.

Hope that helps!
8th-Feb-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
Indian Kodona would be pretty amazing. Your mentioning of pants makes me think of this :o
8th-Feb-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
Awesome!!!! <3<3<3<3<3
8th-Feb-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
Oh man, do keep us posted. Several years ago my husband (then boyfriend) went overseas and brought me YARDS AND YARDS of amazing sarong silk. And I have yet to do *anything* with is because I had no idea what would be appropriate and I didn't want to waste it. THIS WOULD BE AMAZING.
9th-Feb-2012 05:35 am (UTC)
aw! thank you, will do!
One of the girls who posted about, highmagemaxwell, has combined lolita and saris before, and I think she did a lovely job! you should definitely ask her for suggestions!^^
9th-Feb-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
I love traditional Indian clothing and though I have no suggestions for incorporating it into lolita, I really really hope you post the results to daily lolita when you manage it!
9th-Feb-2012 05:41 am (UTC)
aw, thank you~
I am so afraid of Daily lolita sometimes, because two of my friends got made fun of and put on gtfo egl for mixing her traditional family heirlooms (one was Indian and one was Mexican) into their lolita fashion. :| I feel like girls on egl can be catty and mean, so I am so thankful that everyone who has posted here is so polite! ^_^
9th-Feb-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
I've always dreamed of this working @_@ I would love to see a lush Classic styled dress made out of traditional Indian fabric!
9th-Feb-2012 05:41 am (UTC)
oooh~ that would be pretty! thanks for the idea! :D
9th-Feb-2012 01:34 am (UTC)
I have a gorgeous lengha that I intend to shorten into a loli skirt. I will most likely wear it with the matching dupatta. I haven't yet decided if I will wear a choli or a more covering blouse with it... I think I may make a top in the style of a choli but that goes all the way to the waist.

I love Indian fabrics and styles. and think that a loli/ Indian mash up will be gorgeous.

It would be difficult yet gorgeous to have a loli coord with sari draping.
9th-Feb-2012 05:43 am (UTC)
I think Alice and the Pirates has pulled off drapping before. Maybe you could wear a choli with a contrating top under it? The underneath top could define your waist better, while the choli could even be decorative instead of the more common plain ones.^_^
Thanks for your suggestion! :3
9th-Feb-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
I think Indian traditional clothing would look lovely with lolita!

Especially Anarkali like this: http://clothing.fashpages.com/asian/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Anarkali-Salwar-Kameez-Designs-Bollywood-7.jpg

Edited at 2012-02-09 02:32 am (UTC)
9th-Feb-2012 05:43 am (UTC)
oooh~ that's pretty!
thanks for the pic!^^
9th-Feb-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
My roommate was just saying "I wonder how to incorporate these bindi into my wardrobe?"

One of the college professors brought them back from India and passed them out to her Indian Film Music class and we were trying to involve them in Lolita for a bit there XD
9th-Feb-2012 05:45 am (UTC)
oh, wow, I've never owned bindi before! It would be cool to incorporate that~ I didn't even think of that; thanks for the suggestion! :3
9th-Feb-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
Personally I don't really see a way for this to work. lolita incorporates more western / Victorian styles with the exception of wa-loli, qi-loli, etc.
but traditional Indian fashion is very loose and drapey and quite over the top colorful which doesn't really go with lolita. I feel that most east-meets-west fashion doesn't turn out so well so don't just throw frills on something and call it lolita.
but hey, that's just my opinion and your free to do whatever you want ^_^
9th-Feb-2012 05:33 am (UTC)
Thank you for your input.^_^
I just don't see, if wa-lolita and q-lolita work, why incorporating another Asian fashion into lolita wouldn't.
9th-Feb-2012 04:08 am (UTC)
Indian fashion and lolita have 2 very different aesthetics, and I don't think that you can combine them. Lolita fashion is about the cut of the fabric: ruffles, pintucks, puffed sleeves, gathered skirts, bows, etc. Some lolita dresses do have elaborate prints, but if they didn't have the cut of a lolita dress, they wouldn't be lolita. Indian fashion, on the other hand, uses mostly simple, straight cuts; the elaborateness of the garment comes from the material: bright colors, silk, embroidery, jacquard, etc. Indian fashion and lolita use 2 different color palettes. Yes, there is white in Indian fashion, but it's not a color you commonly see young women wearing. (White is typically worn by widows in India.)

Lolita fashion also doesn't meet Indian standards for modesty. I never saw a woman in India who wasn't completely covered from waist to ankle, and I doubt tights or socks count as coverage. You could put pants under a lolita skirt, but I think it would look awkward.

If you want to make lolita clothes from Indian fabric, you certainly could, and it would be probably beautiful, but it wouldn't really be Indian. If you want something that will actually give you the feel of Indian culture, I would skip lolita entirely. There is no reason why you can't wear lolita one day and a sari or churidar the next.
9th-Feb-2012 05:32 am (UTC)
Okies, thank you for your input. ^_^
When I have gone to India, I see many women wear saris that show their mid-rift, so I personally think lolita fashion covers more than the Indian standards of modesty. I just feel like, since Kimonos and lolita clothing have two different cuts, and wa-lolita combines them, as well as traditional Chinese clothing having a different cut and Q-lolita combining them, there ought to be someway to combine Indian and lolita fashion in the same way.
9th-Feb-2012 04:43 am (UTC)
A skirt/jsk made of traditional Indian fabric would be boss. I love seeing ethnic inspired prints.

I could also see a similar approach to qi/wa lolita -- keep the top elements rifting towards the traditional, but keep the skirt within the proper lolita shape. Keep the sleeves, collar, embellishments traditional and have a sari that matches the skirt, and coordinate with traditional Indian jewelry. I think it would look divine!
9th-Feb-2012 05:52 am (UTC)
oooh~ thank you for the inspiration! I like that idea; I was debating what to keep from teh traditional Indian clothing, and what to let go of for the lolita aspect. I was looking at wa and q lolita for inspiration, and trying to figure out what they kept. Thank you for the advice.
9th-Feb-2012 05:18 am (UTC)
I had the idea to do a sari inspired look using a pretty skirt, sari fabric as long as the skirt, and a choli with tights and heels.
9th-Feb-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
Ooh~ that sounds simple and lovely! I really like the idea~!^^
9th-Feb-2012 07:12 am (UTC)
looking at those pictures it doesn't seem hard. The neckline seems important, so if you make a jumper skirt with that neckline, out of nice sari fabric - and oh, definitely the fabric hanging down could be used especially in a pirate themed coord.
9th-Feb-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
hmm, keeping the neck line consistent ant sounds like a good idea.
Omggg, a pirate-inspired Indian-inspired outfit... that sounds amazing. I want to look up if there were ever Indian pirates now.
9th-Feb-2012 03:14 pm (UTC)
Omg, those would be sooo easy to make. Try using some traditional fabrics, in an a line dress, add in the pettis and you'd probably have lolita!

I like the idea though! Post some pics when you have them, I'd love to see them!
12th-Feb-2012 03:32 am (UTC)
oooh~ okies! thank you for your suggestions!^_^
I'm putting everyone's ideas and feedback into a chart for easy reference before I start! :3
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12th-Feb-2012 03:36 am (UTC)
ohh~ heavy satin fabrics sounds like a good idea. I have to figure out how to make that kind of material *poof* with a strong petti. :3

cool! I've only been there three times (one time I was like 4 years old, so I guess I should only say I've been two times xD), and mostly to Southern India, where they have cities and stuff and I remember we took a train and it was like an older style version of AmTrak.^^
10th-Feb-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
Oh my gosh, YES! It would be super cute if you used traditional Indian prints with the lolita silhouette and had a sari that was attached to the dress so you could drape it over your shoulder in the traditional manner. ^^

I'm run away with my imagination.
12th-Feb-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
I like the shoulder drape idea a lot! It reminds me of AatP. :3
18th-Nov-2012 12:26 pm (UTC)
Ok, so this is a long time after your post and you may have solved the problem or gave up on it completely but I have to comment because I LOVE THIS IDEA!!
I agree, if wa and qi loli exist why can't an indian one work!!
I looked at the site you linked and I'd agree with the other commenter, they are mostly too bright but this one
http://salwarkameezonline.com/anarkalichuridar-p-2644.html?zenid=0a09903437d33195cd8482d35f456ed8
or something similar could totally work! If you've already done an indian/loli collab I would love to see pics. xD
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