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Salopette Question 
12th-Oct-2010 04:49 pm
Hi, everyone!  I searched in the archives but I couldn't find anything that answered my question...so...

What exactly is a salopette (have also seen 'salopette dress', 'salopette skirt', and 'salopette JSK')? I had thought that the word referred to what most people I know would call 'overalls' or 'bibbers', and a 'salopette dress' to maybe a 'pinafore dress'? I've been in the fashion (not necessarily wearing, but definitely paying close attention to) for close to 6 or 7 months now, but I have never seen the term applied to Lolita clothing before. Even more confusing, none of the items I've seen the term applied to even remotely fit my previous understanding of the word. It may be because I am definitely a Classic girl and don't pay any attention to AP until I see it turning up on daily_lolita? I'm seeing it applied to more clothing than the AP dresses, though...if any of you could clear this up for me, I would be so grateful. ^^

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12th-Oct-2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
Ah...ok, I think I understand now. :) Thanks!
12th-Oct-2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
From my understanding salopette is the French word for what I'd call a play suit, and that the Japanese adopted the term from there and thus use it (salopette shows up on poupee too). Thus why we end up calling the things AP and Baby release salopettes.

http://www.woxikon.com/fra/salopette.php The categories for play suits/jump suits/overalls/coveralls/etc. in English is getting pretty broad and messy these days too.
12th-Oct-2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
Ohhh! Now I see the similarity, that makes much more sense. Thank you!
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12th-Oct-2010 10:25 pm (UTC)
Got it ^^ Thank you!
12th-Oct-2010 10:36 pm (UTC)
No, that's just a jsk.

OP, here is an example of a salopette.
It's basically a skirt with a bib and straps. Of lolita brands, AP releases them most often, but I know IW has had a couple...
12th-Oct-2010 10:43 pm (UTC)
I did wonder...ok, that's why I haven't seen them so much, then. (I spend most of my time on brand sites sighing over MM and occasionally VM.) Thanks for clearing that up.
12th-Oct-2010 10:49 pm (UTC)
Haha, yeah, they're more popular with sweeter brands, as they're not technically really lolita [the skirts are often too short], more fairy kei, and girls into sweet lolita tend to dabble in fairy kei a lot.
If you'll notice, AP categorizes them under "skirt", not "jumperskirt", and their names all end with サロペット - which translates to salopette :P
12th-Oct-2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
I really like the ones that instead of having a skirt have little shorts. Reminds me a lot of the playsuits from the 40's. Plus they're freaking adorable.
13th-Oct-2010 12:20 am (UTC) - OT, your icon
Is that a lace chart?
13th-Oct-2010 12:23 am (UTC) - Re: OT, your icon
Yes, actually it is. :D I was waiting for someone to ask that...it's from this antique lace pattern charted by Franklin Habit: http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEss10/FEATss10SIT.php

13th-Oct-2010 12:44 am (UTC)
I'm glad someone asked this! I was wondering about this for some time! ^^'
13th-Oct-2010 12:57 am (UTC)
Haha! Me too ^^; It took me a while to get up the courage to ask, I didn't know if it was really really obvious or something.
13th-Oct-2010 12:49 pm (UTC)
LOL and to show you just how much time I spend knitting, or on knitting sites, or looking at a pattern...

... I totally didn't even see it as out of the ordinary :P Just because I see lace charts all day anyways... but now that someone pointed out that it's a lace chart on a loli comm... AWESOME!!! I just finished the Shipwreck Shawl (also on knitty) which I've been wanting to do for years...
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